..bring the band on down, behind me, boyz… Some one here mention Traynor amps as being a good reliable amp… ..preach on, brother..  Peter Traynor is an un-sung hero… I’ve seen, used, and rented tons of Traynors, but have needed to repair few.  The older amps are fuckin killer work horses. Yes they had their own sound..the -v on the screen EL34/6CA7 trick, but they always worked, and the *1st* amp I ever saw, I was a teen, was a Custom Special, 8-10 Traynor.  I KNEW !!! then this was my life.  Some local band played a party up my street, I can’t tell you who or what other amps were there, but THAT amp started it all for me.  A Chas Bean rental, natch. Now, for those who doubt, I promise you.  Go out and find ya’self a YBA-3A "Super Custom Special".  Laugh, but I know of 2 4sale out there, I own 1.  Anyway, I’m tempted to buy one of these, and ‘mod’ it.  I can do so simple shit to it, and make an SVT cry for mercy.  You modders, go find the schematics, LEARN what Pete did.  HE IZ a Fender/Marshall/PV/Reeves type of guy… As far as amps from up north, anyone hear of ‘Orbit’..? I’ve been looking for shit on that company 4 years.  ARB 2 …yes folks, I am writing a book… JJT

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > ..bring the band on down, behind me, boyz… > Some one here mention Traynor amps as being a good reliable amp… > ..preach on, brother..  Peter Traynor is an un-sung hero… > I’ve seen, used, and rented tons of Traynors, but have needed > to repair few.  The older amps are fuckin killer work horses. > Yes they had their own sound..the -v on the screen EL34/6CA7 > trick, but they always worked, and the *1st* amp I ever saw, > I was a teen, was a Custom Special, 8-10 Traynor.  I KNEW !!! > then this was my life.  Some local band played a party up my > street, I can’t tell you who or what other amps were there, > but THAT amp started it all for me.  A Chas Bean rental, natch. > Now, for those who doubt, I promise you.  Go out and find ya’self > a YBA-3A "Super Custom Special".  Laugh, but I know of 2 4sale > out there, I own 1.  Anyway, I’m tempted to buy one of these, > and ‘mod’ it.  I can do so simple shit to it, and make an SVT > cry for mercy.  You modders, go find the schematics, LEARN > what Pete did.  HE IZ a Fender/Marshall/PV/Reeves type of guy… > As far as amps from up north, anyone hear of ‘Orbit’..? > I’ve been looking for shit on that company 4 years.  ARB 2 > …yes folks, I am writing a book… > JJT

Yep, traynors can brown the food under the clinical supervision of a dokter… I’ve got a bassmaster mk2 that I use as a plexi clone as a 2nd amp to go with my super reverb.. The SR is basically the "clean/blues" channel, where the bassmaster is more the mechanical class A lead sound you get with those type amps. I kinda mimic Eric Johnsons layout… He also like the fenders for his cleans, and the plexi’s, etc, for his lead channel. But that setup is fairly industrial strength just for piker dive bars… The mk2 is the 80-100w version, and runs a hot 550 volts + or – on the plates. I’m thinking about also getting a regular 50w bassmaster to be a closer match to the SR as far as power. 100w is too much for me most of the time… Well, lets say it’s fine by me, and what I play, but many dive bar owners will duck and cover with that much horsepower.. Also, anyone I’m jamming with needs the horsepower too, if they don’t wanna get lost in the mix.  So I’ll probably go with a 50w version, and keep the 100w for a conversation piece or sumtin… I could fire it up to rid the house of pests and insects every few weeks.. I kinda hate to get rid of it, cuz it is a pretty manly piece of geetar amplifrycation. And I only paid $255 for it.. Try finding a real plexi for that price.. I won’t be holding my breath… MK

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> Yes they had their own sound..the -v on the screen EL34/6CA7 > trick, but they always worked, and the *1st* amp I ever saw,

 > JJT You mean *suppressor* grids, right? Put a neg voltage on screens and, Ladies and gentlemen, The monster, Which the peasants in this area call FRUNOBULAX (Apparently a very large poodle dog) Has just been seen approaching The Power Plant Bullets can’t stop it Rockets can’t stop it We may have to use NUCLEAR FORCE!

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> Ladies and gentlemen, > The monster, > Which the peasants in this area call FRUNOBULAX > (Apparently a very large poodle dog) > Has just been seen approaching The Power Plant > Bullets can’t stop it > Rockets can’t stop it > We may have to use NUCLEAR FORCE!

now THERES an obscure Zappa referance

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>> Yes they had their own sound..the -v on the screen EL34/6CA7 > trick, but they always worked, and the *1st* amp I ever saw, > JJT >You mean *suppressor* grids, right? Put a neg voltage on screens and,

Well, only on EL34/6CA7, cause that pin is not tied to ground internally.  Pin #1, I believe.  6550/6L6/EL84 tie inside to Pin#8. JJT

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…hmm, I wonder why he didn’t go to the Superdome or Convention Center, where he was needed the most, wasn’t he watching TV? Maybe he had an "indifference to the pain of poor people, and black people." "Jackson, some four days after Hurricane Katrina struck, apparently led a bus convoy to rescue 450 students trapped at the historically black Xavier University, hardly the poorest people in the city, but rather, we might suggest, part of the black elite who get to go to a university of that caliber." http://www.talkingproud.us/Hammer090405A.html Blacks were in critical leadership positions, Jesse. Get it right. Jesse Jackson rode out Katrina in Caracas, Venezuela, in the palace of the "hate America" administration of Comrade Chavez. He’s home now to belittle the American people’s response to the Katrina disaster. By Ed Marek, editor I’ve been wondering when old faithful, Jesse Jackson, would bounce out of the woodwork to make the disaster response to Hurricane Katrina a racial thing. On September 2, we have Jackson tearing into President Bush and the American people like this: "There is a historical indifference to the pain of poor people, and black people … we seem to adjust more easily to black pain. "We reach out today for our president to lead from the ground, not the air. "They are poor people, black people (trapped in New Orleans) for the most part without private transportation, many of them are old and sick. "How can blacks be left out of the leadership and trapped into the suffering?" "When the 9/11 tragedy struck us, the president was there in two days, on the ground embracing police and firemen. When the tsunami struck, he immediately mobilized world opinion. "The UN relief effort for the tsunami was superior to the US effort for New Orleans and Louisiana. For American citizens, we deserve better." Jackson, some four days after Hurricane Katrina struck, apparently led a bus convoy to rescue 450 students trapped at the historically black Xavier University, hardly the poorest people in the city, but rather, we might suggest, part of the black elite who get to go to a university of that caliber. Jackson said he was shocked at the scenes of pain and suffering. Well, Jackson, don’t feel like the Lone Ranger. The entire nation has been shocked by the scenes of pain and suffering. May God have mercy on you if you don’t believe that. Tell us Jackson, by what measure have you concluded that Americans have adjusted to black pain? You have no such measure. If you look at the photography of the rescue efforts that have been underway immediately following Katrina’s departure, you’ll see a lot of Americans from all walks of life helping and saving lives, often beyond the call of duty. I personally have not seen one photo showing your Rainbow Coalition, the Black Caucus, the Urban League or the NAACP in there doing anything. All I hear from these outfits is complaining and whining. Look Jackson, we are not fools. We all understand that poor people are without private transportation, and many are old and sick. Why the mayor and governor did not get them out of town is a matter left for later analysis. Blacks have not been left out of the leadership. The mayor of New Orleans, his chief of police, and much of his staff are all black. The responsibilities for city disaster preparedness and first response fell on them. They are and were in the most critical positions of leadership. Did they do their job? We’ll evaluate that later. So what if the president was in New York two days after 9-11 and so what that he immediately mobilized world opinion for tsunami support? What’s your point? Make it clearly instead of talking in hieroglyphics. Your analogy is all bent out of shape. The UN relief effort for the tsunami was not superior to the US effort in New Orleans. Sayting it was truly reflects how out of touch you are Jackson. What UN effort for the tsunami? There was no UN relief effort of any note. Damned near the entire effort was an American effort. And the American effort took time to kick in as well. You might recall that the same media criticizing the US response to Katrina criticized the US response to the tsunami on the other side of the world. We opened a photo gallery series on December 28, 2004, two days after the tsunami struck, entitled, "Our sons’ and daughters’ tsunami response makes you shiver with pride." I personally looked at the photography coming from the region every day, and I didn’t see any UN effort. Sorry. Jackson has tried to deceive us, yet again. One more point. The fools in the media and politics, including Jackson, know nothing of what is required to mount a major logistics effort of the kinds required by the tsunami and Katrina. Nothing. They just have no clue. I am very proud of the way we Americans have responded to Katrina, and I know my pride will grow as each day passes. I am also very proud of the way those who suffered in New Orleans under the most difficult circumstances hung in there and fought the fight as best they could until the help we provided got there. I don;t know that I could have held up as well. One never knows until tested. They were tested by the tens and tens of thousands, and they passed with flying colors. Do they have legitimate complaints? Hell yeah. Did they survive? Hell yeah, almost all of them. Were there some no-goodnkiks in the crowd? Of course, but none of us will allow them to cover up the iron-clad will to survive demonstrated by so many. With regard to one each Jesse Jackson and his Monday morning quarterbacking, it is worth noting that on August 24 he was joined with Venezuela’s consul general in Chicago getting themselves in a lather over Pat Robertson’s remarks about taking out Venezuela’s President Chavez. At that time, Tropical Storm Katrina was east of Florida and on a direct course toward southern Florida. Her winds were only 40 mph but she was predicted to be heavy with rain. On August 25 Jackson was marketing his trip to Venezuela scheduled for August 27-30. Tropical Storm Katrina had been approaching southeastern Florida with 50 mph winds but was moving slowly and was very heavy with rains. She struck Florida as a Category 1 Hurricane with winds at 75 mph and lots of rain on that day. On August 27, Jackson boarded a private jet sent by Comrade Chavez to Chicago to fly him to Caracas. While flying out of Chicago, now Hurricane Katrina, a Category 1, had just departed Florida’s southwest coast after leaving much destruction and killing at least nine. She quickly gained strength over the Gulf of Mexico and was rated a Category 3, and experts warned she could be a Category 4 by landfall the Gulf Coast, predicted for August 29. On August 28, Jackson was on Venezuelan television with President Chavez. That morning, Hurricane Katrina was passing into the Gulf of Mexico between southwest Florida and Mexico’s Yucatan and was upgraded to the most powerful hurricane possible, Category 5. Surges in excess of 18 feet, severe structural damage, and rapidly rising water levels in low lying areas were predicted. New Orleans was cited at this time as highly vulnerable. New Orleans’ mayor and staff, along with the Louisiana governor and staff, all knew that the city’s levees were only designed to withstand a Category 3. Rev. Jesse Jackson shares a moment with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez after receiving a sash at the Miraflores Presidential Palace in Caracas, Venezuela, Monday, Aug. 29, 2005. Photo credit: Fernando Llano, AP On August 29, the day Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans, Jackson was in the Miraflores Presidential Palace in Caracas meeting with Comrade Chavez. On August 30, Jackson was flying back to the US on Chavez’s private jet. We do not know whether Jackson’s busy schedule in Venezuela precluded him from staying abreast of the route of Hurricane Katrina. One must wonder whether the hurricane and its ferocity simply escaped Jackson’s attention while playing grab-ass with the "hate America" administration of Comrade Chavez. Perhaps he was tired and simply surprised. He did show up in safe and sound Baton Rouge on September 1, two days after the disaster. The first I noted Jackson in New Orleans was on September 3, five days after the disaster.

Hi, I have a VOX BUCKINGHAM amp that I play bass guitar thru (this amp has a bass channel). I love the sound. It currently has 2 12" 16 OHM VOX BULLDOG speakers. The amp is rated at about 35 watts RMS. The speaker enclosure is open back and the cabinet volume is about 2.8 cubic feet. I would like to replace the speakers. Any suggestions?? Thanks VOXBOX

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Don’t know if they are any good but they are cheap…NCM "Black Dog" Replacement Loudspeaker – Custom manufactured specifically for North Coast Music, the "Black Dog" is designed to recreate the tones of that famous "blue" speaker. Use to replace the speaker in the Vox AC-15TB or the 12" speakers in any of the North Coast Music Vox licensed cabinets. 12 inch, 8 ohms, 30 watts RMS, 1.5" voice coil. 4 3/4" deep. No returns or refunds on this part. All sales final. Price: $49.00 USD each Continental US Shipping: $12 USD each Alaska, Hawaii and International Shipping: Fax or eMail Part #: NCM-186 I realize that they are not 16 ohm. My Essex Bass amp was touted to have "Two Vox Bulldog 12" Bass speakers". They actually had  8 ohm Oxford 12T6 with 1966 date codes. This was one of the standard speakers for Blackface Fender Bassman, Bandmaster, And Twin Reverb. Though some say that the 85 watt Twin blew the speakers regularly. What are the codes on the current speakers?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, > I have a VOX BUCKINGHAM amp that I play bass guitar thru (this amp has a > bass channel). I love the sound. > It currently has 2 12" 16 OHM VOX BULLDOG speakers. The amp is rated at > about 35 watts RMS. The speaker enclosure is open back and the cabinet > volume is about 2.8 cubic feet. > I would like to replace the speakers. Any suggestions?? > Thanks > VOXBOX

If I’m not mistaken, those bulldogs go for a pretty good price on eBay. Better yet, you might see about posting on the bulletin board at webervst.com to trade.  It’s my impression that at least a few folks who hang out there know something about speakers.  You can post this message there with an offer to trade.  See what develops.  I suspect you’ll be looking for a 3-way swap, though.

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It’s once again time to review the winners of the annual Stella awards. The Stella’s are named after 81 year old Stella Liebeck who spilled coffee on herself and successfully sued McDonald’s. That case inspired the Stella Awards for the most frivolous successful lawsuits in the United States. 5th place. Terrence Dickson of Bristol Pennsylvania was leaving a house he had just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get the garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was malfunctioning. He could not re-enter the house because the door connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The family was on vacation and Mr. Dickson found himself locked in the garage for 8 days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found and a large bag of dry dog food. He sued, claiming the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The Jury agreed to the tune of $500,000 4th place. Jerry Williams of Little Rock Arkansas was awarded $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his neighbor’s Beagle dog. The Beagle was on a chain in its owner’s fenced yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog might have been provoked at the time as Mr. Williams, who had climbed over the fence into the yard, was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun. 3rd place. A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of Lancaster Pennsylvania $113,500 after she slipped on a soft drink and broke her coccyx (tailbone). The beverage was on the floor because Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument. 2nd place. Kara Walton of Claymont Delaware sued the owner of a Night Club when she fell from the bathroom window to the floor and knocked out two of her front teeth. This occurred while MS. Walton was trying to sneak out of the window in the Ladies Room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 and dental expenses. 1st Place. This year’s runaway winner was Mr. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Mr. Grazinski purchased a brand new Winnebago Motor Home. On a trip home from an OU football game, while driving on the Freeway, he set the cruise control at 70 mph and calmly left the drivers seat to go into the back and make himself a cup of coffee. Not surprisingly the RV left the Freeway, crashed and overturned. Mr. Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising him that in the owner’s manual that he could not actually do this. The jury awarded him $1,750,000 plus a new Winnebago Motor Home. The company actually changed their manuals on the basis of this suit just in case there was any other complete morons buying their recreation vehicles

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There is indeed a website dedicated to the Stella Awards, and they include a page listing these as FAKES: http://www.stellaawards.com/bogus.html Zoid

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> There is indeed a website dedicated to the Stella Awards, and they > include a page listing these as FAKES: > http://www.stellaawards.com/bogus.html > Zoid

Cool. Thanks for the Heads Up. I got that in my email and just passed it along…;-) John

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> There is indeed a website dedicated to the Stella Awards, and they > include a page listing these as FAKES: > http://www.stellaawards.com/bogus.html

Jeezus, WHO comes up with that stuff!?  Somebody’s got wayyyyy to much time on their hands! ~kp

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>2005 Stella Awards! >>Time once again to review the winners of the Annual "Stella Awards." >>The Stella Awards are named after 81 year-old Stella Liebeck who >>spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued McDonald’s (in NM). >>That case inspired the Stella Awards for the most frivolous, >>ridiculous, successful lawsuits in the United States. >>Here are this year’s winners: >>5th Place (tie): >>Kathleen Robertson of Austin, Texas, was awarded $80,000. by a jury of >>her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was >>running inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were >>understandably surprised at the verdict, considering the misbehaving >>little toddler was Ms. Robertson’s son. >>5th Place (tie): >>19-year-old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical >>expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr. >>Truman apparently didn’t notice there was someone at the wheel of the >>car when he was trying to steal his neighbor’s hubcaps. >>5th Place (tie): >>Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania, was leaving a house he had >>just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get >>the garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was >>malfunctioning. He couldn’t re-enter the house because the door >>connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The >>family was on vacation, and Mr. Dickson found himself locked in the >>garage for eight days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found, and a >>large bag of dry dog food. He sued the homeowner’s insurance claiming >>the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury agreed, to the >>tune of $500,000. In my opinion this is so outrageous that it should >>have been 2nd Place! >>4th Place: >>Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded $14,500. and >>medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door >>neighbor’s beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner’s fenced >>yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog >>might have been just a little provoked at the time by Mr. Williams who >>had climbed over the fence into the yard and was shooting it >>repeatedly with a pellet gun. >> 3rd Place: >>A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of >>Lancaster, Pennsylvania, $113,500. after she slipped on a soft drink >>and broke her coccyx (tailbone). The beverage was on the floor because >>Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an >>argument. >>2ndPlace: >>Kara Walton of Claymont, Delaware, successfully sued the owner of a >>night club in a neighboring city when she fell from the bathroom >>window to the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This occurred >>while Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the window in the ladies >>room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 >>and dental expenses. >> 1st Place: >> This year’s runaway winner was Mrs. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City, >> Oklahoma. Mrs. Grazinski purchased a brand new 32-foot Winnebago motor >> home. On her first trip home, (from an OU football game), having >> driven onto the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and >> calmly left the driver’s seat to go into the back & make herself a >> sandwich. Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and >> overturned. Mrs.Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising her in the >> owner’s manual that she couldn’t actually do this. The jury awarded >> her $1,750,000. plus a new motor home. The company actually changed >> their manuals on the basis of this suit, just in case there were any >> other complete morons around. >Indeed, these on the surface, appear to be idiotic verdicts and gross >insults to common sense. >But coming from the reactionary side of the aisle, I suspect that there >have been omissions or extenuating circumstances which would otherwise >provide some rationale for the verdicts, or ‘creative’ use of >descriptive adjectives.  Such is indeed the track record of reactionaries. >Now, I’m not levying any charges against Connie, for she is an honorable >person.  It’s just that she gets this stuff from various reactionary web >sites, and like the true reactionary she is, NEVER questions dogma or >ideology. >And of course, I don’t have the complete transcripts either, so I really >can’t be sure as well.  It’s just that when you behave in a certain way >long enough and frequently enough, it’s sort of guilt by past practice. > Read this: > http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm > It tells the actual facts about the McDonald’s case > Thumper

Thank you, Thumper.  I thought there was some little bit of information that the reactionary web site left out.  But that is typical disinformation and subterfuge that we  have come to expect from the reactionary. Now, I wonder how that makes Connie look?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 2005 Stella Awards! > Time once again to review the winners of the Annual "Stella Awards." > The Stella Awards are named after 81 year-old Stella Liebeck who > spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued McDonald’s (in NM). > That case inspired the Stella Awards for the most frivolous, > ridiculous, successful lawsuits in the United States. > Here are this year’s winners: > 5th Place (tie): > Kathleen Robertson of Austin, Texas, was awarded $80,000. by a jury of > her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was > running inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were > understandably surprised at the verdict, considering the misbehaving > little toddler was Ms. Robertson’s son. > 5th Place (tie): > 19-year-old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical > expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr. > Truman apparently didn’t notice there was someone at the wheel of the > car when he was trying to steal his neighbor’s hubcaps. > 5th Place (tie): > Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania, was leaving a house he had > just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get > the garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was > malfunctioning. He couldn’t re-enter the house because the door > connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The > family was on vacation, and Mr. Dickson found himself locked in the > garage for eight days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found, and a > large bag of dry dog food. He sued the homeowner’s insurance claiming > the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury agreed, to the > tune of $500,000. In my opinion this is so outrageous that it should > have been 2nd Place! > 4th Place: > Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded $14,500. and > medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door > neighbor’s beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner’s fenced > yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog > might have been just a little provoked at the time by Mr. Williams who > had climbed over the fence into the yard and was shooting it > repeatedly with a pellet gun. >  3rd Place: > A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of > Lancaster, Pennsylvania, $113,500. after she slipped on a soft drink > and broke her coccyx (tailbone). The beverage was on the floor because > Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an > argument. > 2ndPlace: > Kara Walton of Claymont, Delaware, successfully sued the owner of a > night club in a neighboring city when she fell from the bathroom > window to the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This occurred > while Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the window in the ladies > room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 > and dental expenses. >  1st Place: >  This year’s runaway winner was Mrs. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City, >  Oklahoma. Mrs. Grazinski purchased a brand new 32-foot Winnebago motor >  home. On her first trip home, (from an OU football game), having >  driven onto the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and >  calmly left the driver’s seat to go into the back & make herself a >  sandwich. Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and >  overturned. Mrs.Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising her in the >  owner’s manual that she couldn’t actually do this. The jury awarded >  her $1,750,000. plus a new motor home. The company actually changed >  their manuals on the basis of this suit, just in case there were any >  other complete morons around. >Indeed, these on the surface, appear to be idiotic verdicts and gross >insults to common sense. >But coming from the reactionary side of the aisle, I suspect that there >have been omissions or extenuating circumstances which would otherwise >provide some rationale for the verdicts, or ‘creative’ use of >descriptive adjectives.  Such is indeed the track record of reactionaries. >Now, I’m not levying any charges against Connie, for she is an honorable >person.  It’s just that she gets this stuff from various reactionary web >sites, and like the true reactionary she is, NEVER questions dogma or >ideology. >And of course, I don’t have the complete transcripts either, so I really >can’t be sure as well.  It’s just that when you behave in a certain way >long enough and frequently enough, it’s sort of guilt by past practice.

Read this: http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm It tells the actual facts about the McDonald’s case Thumper

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > 2005 Stella Awards! > Time once again to review the winners of the Annual "Stella Awards." > The Stella Awards are named after 81 year-old Stella Liebeck who > spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued McDonald’s (in NM). > That case inspired the Stella Awards for the most frivolous, > ridiculous, successful lawsuits in the United States. > Here are this year’s winners: > 5th Place (tie): > Kathleen Robertson of Austin, Texas, was awarded $80,000. by a jury of > her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was > running inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were > understandably surprised at the verdict, considering the misbehaving > little toddler was Ms. Robertson’s son. > 5th Place (tie): > 19-year-old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical > expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr. > Truman apparently didn’t notice there was someone at the wheel of the > car when he was trying to steal his neighbor’s hubcaps. > 5th Place (tie): > Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania, was leaving a house he had > just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get > the garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was > malfunctioning. He couldn’t re-enter the house because the door > connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The > family was on vacation, and Mr. Dickson found himself locked in the > garage for eight days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found, and a > large bag of dry dog food. He sued the homeowner’s insurance claiming > the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury agreed, to the > tune of $500,000. In my opinion this is so outrageous that it should > have been 2nd Place! > 4th Place: > Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded $14,500. and > medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door > neighbor’s beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner’s fenced > yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog > might have been just a little provoked at the time by Mr. Williams who > had climbed over the fence into the yard and was shooting it > repeatedly with a pellet gun. >  3rd Place: > A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of > Lancaster, Pennsylvania, $113,500. after she slipped on a soft drink > and broke her coccyx (tailbone). The beverage was on the floor because > Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an > argument. > 2ndPlace: > Kara Walton of Claymont, Delaware, successfully sued the owner of a > night club in a neighboring city when she fell from the bathroom > window to the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This occurred > while Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the window in the ladies > room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 > and dental expenses. >  1st Place: >  This year’s runaway winner was Mrs. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City, >  Oklahoma. Mrs. Grazinski purchased a brand new 32-foot Winnebago motor >  home. On her first trip home, (from an OU football game), having >  driven onto the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and >  calmly left the driver’s seat to go into the back & make herself a >  sandwich. Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and >  overturned. Mrs.Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising her in the >  owner’s manual that she couldn’t actually do this. The jury awarded >  her $1,750,000. plus a new motor home. The company actually changed >  their manuals on the basis of this suit, just in case there were any >  other complete morons around.

Indeed, these on the surface, appear to be idiotic verdicts and gross insults to common sense. But coming from the reactionary side of the aisle, I suspect that there have been omissions or extenuating circumstances which would otherwise provide some rationale for the verdicts, or ‘creative’ use of descriptive adjectives.  Such is indeed the track record of reactionaries. Now, I’m not levying any charges against Connie, for she is an honorable person.  It’s just that she gets this stuff from various reactionary web sites, and like the true reactionary she is, NEVER questions dogma or ideology. And of course, I don’t have the complete transcripts either, so I really can’t be sure as well.  It’s just that when you behave in a certain way long enough and frequently enough, it’s sort of guilt by past practice.

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2005 Stella Awards! Time once again to review the winners of the Annual "Stella Awards." The Stella Awards are named after 81 year-old Stella Liebeck who spilled hot coffee on herself and successfully sued McDonald’s (in NM). That case inspired the Stella Awards for the most frivolous, ridiculous, successful lawsuits in the United States. Here are this year’s winners: 5th Place (tie): Kathleen Robertson of Austin, Texas, was awarded $80,000. by a jury of her peers after breaking her ankle tripping over a toddler who was running inside a furniture store. The owners of the store were understandably surprised at the verdict, considering the misbehaving little toddler was Ms. Robertson’s son. 5th Place (tie): 19-year-old Carl Truman of Los Angeles won $74,000 and medical expenses when his neighbor ran over his hand with a Honda Accord. Mr. Truman apparently didn’t notice there was someone at the wheel of the car when he was trying to steal his neighbor’s hubcaps. 5th Place (tie): Terrence Dickson of Bristol, Pennsylvania, was leaving a house he had just finished robbing by way of the garage. He was not able to get the garage door to go up since the automatic door opener was malfunctioning. He couldn’t re-enter the house because the door connecting the house and garage locked when he pulled it shut. The family was on vacation, and Mr. Dickson found himself locked in the garage for eight days. He subsisted on a case of Pepsi he found, and a large bag of dry dog food. He sued the homeowner’s insurance claiming the situation caused him undue mental anguish. The jury agreed, to the tune of $500,000. In my opinion this is so outrageous that it should have been 2nd Place! 4th Place: Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded $14,500. and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door neighbor’s beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner’s fenced yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog might have been just a little provoked at the time by Mr. Williams who had climbed over the fence into the yard and was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun.  3rd Place: A Philadelphia restaurant was ordered to pay Amber Carson of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, $113,500. after she slipped on a soft drink and broke her coccyx (tailbone). The beverage was on the floor because Ms. Carson had thrown it at her boyfriend 30 seconds earlier during an argument. 2ndPlace: Kara Walton of Claymont, Delaware, successfully sued the owner of a night club in a neighboring city when she fell from the bathroom window to the floor and knocked out her two front teeth. This occurred while Ms. Walton was trying to sneak through the window in the ladies room to avoid paying the $3.50 cover charge. She was awarded $12,000 and dental expenses.  1st Place:  This year’s runaway winner was Mrs. Merv Grazinski of Oklahoma City,  Oklahoma. Mrs. Grazinski purchased a brand new 32-foot Winnebago motor  home. On her first trip home, (from an OU football game), having  driven onto the freeway, she set the cruise control at 70 mph and  calmly left the driver’s seat to go into the back & make herself a  sandwich. Not surprisingly, the RV left the freeway, crashed and  overturned. Mrs.Grazinski sued Winnebago for not advising her in the  owner’s manual that she couldn’t actually do this. The jury awarded  her $1,750,000. plus a new motor home. The company actually changed  their manuals on the basis of this suit, just in case there were any  other complete morons around.

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O’Reilly misquoted Barbara Boxer in her questioning of Rice at the confirmation hearings.  Boxer said: "This war was sold to the American people–as Chief of Staff to President Bush Andy Card said–like a ‘new product.’ You rolled out the idea and then you had to convince the people, and as you made your case, I personally believe that your loyalty to the mission you were given overwhelmed your respect for the truth," Bixer calmly declared. "That was a great disservice to the American people. But worse than that, our young men and women are dying. So far, 1,366 American troops have been killed in Iraq. More than 25 percent of those troops were from California. More than 10,372 have been wounded." But O’Reilly claims she said: "…overwhelmed your respect for the troops…".  And he continue to claim that even when people calling him in on his show, tried to correct him. Mr Soul http://www.MusicIsLove.com

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And you’re an asshole. Sounds fair and balanced to me… Lord Valve American

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And you’re a fool because there’s nothing fair & balance about O’Reilly or FOX. Mr Soul True American

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O’Reilly IS an asshole (but not an idiot). that said, Barbara Boxer is a racist bitch, and i don’t really care WHAT she said. paul arizona

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And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in the White House. Mr Soul

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> And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a > racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in > the White House. > Mr Soul

Here’s a letter I thought about sending in reaction to her recent behavior on committee. Dear Senator Boxer, You swine. You vulgar maggot. You worthless bag of filth. You couldn’t pour water out of a boot with instructions printed on the heel. You are a canker, an open wound. You’re a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, and a weasel. No; you are a festering pustule on a weasel’s rump. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. You are a technicolor yawn. And you smell. You are a squeaking rat, a mistake of nature and a heavy-metal bagpipe player. You were not born. You were hatched into an unwilling world that rejects the likes of you. You didn’t crawl out of a normal egg, either, but rather a mutant maggot egg rejected by an evil scientist as being below his low standards. Your alleged parents abandoned you at birth and then died of shame in recognition of what they had done to an unsuspecting world. You are a thick-headed trog. I have seen skeet with more sense than you have. You are a few bricks short of a full load, a few cards short of a full deck, a few bytes short of a full core dump, and a few chromosomes short of a full human. Worse than that, you top-post. God created houseflies, cockroaches, maggots, mosquitos, fleas, ticks, slugs, leeches, and intestinal parasites, then he lowered his standards and made you. I take it back; God didn’t make you. You are Satan’s spawn. You are Evil beyond comprehension, half-living in the slough of despair. You are the entropy which will claim us all. You are a green-nostriled, crossed eyed, hairy-livered inbred trout-defiler. You make Ebola look good. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You’re a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won’t have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot. You are not ANSI compliant and your markup doesn’t validate. You have a couple of address lines shorted together. You should be promoted to Engineering Manager. You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a loathsome disease, a drooling inbred cross-eyed toesucker. Your mother had to tie a pork chop around your neck just to get your dog to play with you.  Hee-Haw is too deep for you. You would watch test patterns all day if the other inmates would let you. On a good day you’re a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. May you choke on your own foolish opinions. You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking half-twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You bloody churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill. May your spouse be blessed with many bastards. You are clueless.  You are so clueless that if you dressed in a clue skin, doused yourself in clue musk, and did the clue dance in the middle of a field of horny clues at the height of clue mating season, you still would not have a clue. You are a fiend and a sniveling coward, and you have bad breath. You are the unholy spawn of a bandy-legged hobo and a syphilitic camel. You wear strangely mismatched clothing with oddly placed stains. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just knowing that you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away. You are jetsam who dreams of becoming flotsam. You won’t make it. I beg for sweet death to come and remove me from a world which became unbearable when you crawled out of a harpy’s lair. It is hard to believe how incredibly stupid you are. Stupid as a stone that the other stones make fun of. So stupid that you have traveled far beyond stupid as we know it and into a new dimension of stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid cubed. Trans-stupid stupid. Stupid collapsed to a singularity where even the stupons have collapsed into stuponium. Stupid so dense that no intelligence can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot summer day on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one minute than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. It cannot be possible that anything in our universe can really be this stupid. This is a primordial fragment from the original big stupid bang. A pure extract of stupid with absolute stupid purity. Stupid beyond the laws of nature. The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, EDLINoid, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dyspeptic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, and Generally Not Good. Sincerely, etc….

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> And you’re a fool because there’s nothing fair & balance about O’Reilly > or FOX.

Well, I’ll say this…I am a fiscal conservative, and a liberal on many social issues…I vote Libertarian lately. That said, IMO, Bill O’Reilly is a self-serving show-biz cunt. If CNN gave him a deal that paid him more than his current deal, he would flip and be similarly pro-Left. Notice the special diatribes he reserves for those who do not do his show…far more vehement and petty than those about with he expresses his disagreement.  See, it’s all about *his show*. He is about *his show*. Period. He may *say* some things that resonate with Conservatives, and perhaps more often than he says things that resonate with Liberals, but it is all about his show, nothing more. Bill O’Reilly is a symptom of show biz, nothing more. If one wants well-crafted, thoughtful, conservative opinions, one would read George Will, Chris Hitchens, Victor David Hanson, or even Pat Buchanan (have ya read ‘Where the Right Went Wrong’?) Like the Democrat party, there are differences of opinion among Conservatives. But Bill O’Reilly is nothing more than an opportunistic, show-biz, self-serving, nattering tool.  He wants to be Rush, but he does not have the chops, nor the conviction. For Liberals to site O’Reilly as somehow important only highlights that the Liberals (not ‘liberal’ at all) can not differentiate between an opportunistic parrot and a writer who carefully considers and writes a Conservative opinion that is well-researched, and has a integrity that goes deeper than the fax message of the day. In that way, Bill O’Reilly serves a purpose for the right….he makes the Left look like idiots for all of their sound and fury against him. He makes the Left look like a bunch of half-witted, knee-jerk idiots. O’Reilly, IMO, should be ignored more than he is…he is an intellectual lightweight, but, OTOH, a show-biz heavyweight. That ain’t where I go to seek intelligent Conservative opinions.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a > racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in > the White House. > Mr Soul > Here’s a letter I thought about sending in reaction to her recent > behavior on committee. > Dear Senator Boxer, > You swine. You vulgar maggot. You worthless bag of filth.

Honestly, I watched Boxer on CSPAN on the raw feed. She should be ashamed….beyond all of the statements you made, her statements directed at Rice were among the most offensive I have seen on CSPAN. Boxer is clearly far more a devotee of her tribe than a conduit of the truth. OTOH, underneath all of it, there were conclusions that Rice arrived at that were based on imperfect intelligence, and perhaps Boxer’s implications were just part of the net political cost of such.  Actually, I’d be surprised if that were not understood by both parties. It’s clear to every observer that Boxer’s mud-slinging was not intended to do anything except to *technically*, and on record, denigrate an appointee of the opposing party…sand in the wheels of anything Republican.  There will be more of it, no doubt. Desperation is like that. So the story has a happy ending…Condi Rice is Sec. of State, an rags-to-riches story in a society that makes her apointment an important landmark…a black female following up a black male (OK he was half Irish, but there you go…) as Sec of State of the U.S….and Boxer remains just another footnote…a lock-step Democrat hatchet-wielding robot.

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> And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a > racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in > the White House. > Mr Soul

heh heh, thats not what the Congressional Black Caucus (NOT a conservative group) said. they were pretty hot about it and even held a news conference to condemn boxers attacks. she is a racist bitch, mad because "that damn minority person should have stayed democrat. they OWE us" paul arizona

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horseshit?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a > racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in > the White House. > Mr Soul > heh heh, thats not what the Congressional Black Caucus (NOT a conservative > group) said. they were pretty hot about it and even held a news conference > to condemn boxers attacks. she is a racist bitch, mad because "that damn > minority person should have stayed democrat. they OWE us" > paul > arizona

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a >> racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in >> the White House. >> Mr Soul > Here’s a letter I thought about sending in reaction to her recent > behavior on committee. > Dear Senator Boxer, > You swine. You vulgar maggot. You worthless bag of filth. > Honestly, I watched Boxer on CSPAN on the raw feed. > She should be ashamed….beyond all of the statements you > made, her statements directed at Rice were among the most > offensive I have seen on CSPAN. > Boxer is clearly far more a devotee of her tribe than a > conduit of the truth. > OTOH, underneath all of it, there were conclusions that Rice > arrived at that were based on imperfect intelligence, and perhaps > Boxer’s implications were just part of the net political cost of > such.  Actually, I’d be surprised if that were not understood by > both parties. > It’s clear to every observer that Boxer’s mud-slinging was not > intended to do anything except to *technically*, and on record, > denigrate an appointee of the opposing party…sand in the wheels > of anything Republican.  There will be more of it, no doubt. > Desperation is like that. > So the story has a happy ending…Condi Rice is Sec. of State, > an rags-to-riches story in a society that makes her apointment > an important landmark…a black female following up a black male > (OK he was half Irish, but there you go…) as Sec of State of the > U.S….and Boxer remains just another footnote…a lock-step > Democrat hatchet-wielding robot.

And if I may add,…… this is an example from the party that champions the minority’s cause, and achievements. By their vote, there is a pattern here for all minority’s to take a hard look at, and remember at the voting booth come time for the next presidential election. Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a > racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in > the White House. > Mr Soul > Here’s a letter I thought about sending in reaction to her recent > behavior on committee. > Dear Senator Boxer, > You swine. You vulgar maggot. You worthless bag of filth. You > couldn’t pour water out of a boot with instructions > printed on the heel. You are a canker, an open wound. > You’re a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless > worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a > cad, and a weasel. No; you are a festering pustule on a > weasel’s rump. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, > a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon. > I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same > species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at > the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. > Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are > a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. You are a technicolor yawn. > And you smell. > You are a squeaking rat, a mistake of nature and a heavy-metal bagpipe > player. You were not born. You were hatched into an unwilling world > that rejects the likes of you. You didn’t crawl out of a normal egg, > either, but rather a mutant maggot egg rejected by an evil scientist > as being below his low standards. Your alleged parents abandoned you > at birth and then died of shame in recognition of what they had done > to an unsuspecting world. > You are a thick-headed trog. I have seen skeet with more sense than > you have. You are a few bricks short of a full load, a few cards short > of a full deck, a few bytes short of a full core dump, and a few > chromosomes short of a full human. Worse than that, you top-post. God > created houseflies, cockroaches, maggots, mosquitos, fleas, ticks, > slugs, leeches, and intestinal parasites, then he lowered his > standards and made you. I take it back; God didn’t make you. You are > Satan’s spawn. You are Evil beyond comprehension, half-living in the > slough of despair. You are the entropy which will claim us all. You > are a green-nostriled, crossed eyed, hairy-livered inbred > trout-defiler. You make Ebola look good. > You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, > nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You’re a fool, an > ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won’t have sex with > you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in > a land that reality forgot. You are not ANSI compliant and your markup > doesn’t validate. You have a couple of address lines shorted together. > You should be promoted to Engineering Manager. > You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and > obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living > emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a > loathsome disease, a drooling inbred cross-eyed toesucker. Your mother > had to tie a pork chop around your neck just to get your dog to play > with you.  Hee-Haw is too deep for you. You would watch test patterns > all day if the other inmates would let you. > On a good day you’re a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are > deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of > wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. > You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and > sorrow wherever you go. May you choke on your own foolish opinions. > You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. > You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted > boggish foot-licking half-twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You > gormless crook-pated tosser. You bloody churlish boil-brained clotpole > ponce. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You cockered > bum-bailey poofter. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You > dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill. May your > spouse be blessed with many bastards. > You are clueless.  You are so clueless that if you dressed in a clue > skin, doused yourself in clue musk, and did the clue dance in the > middle of a field of horny clues at the height of clue mating season, > you still would not have a clue. > You are a fiend and a sniveling coward, and you have bad breath. You > are the unholy spawn of a bandy-legged hobo and a syphilitic camel. > You wear strangely mismatched clothing with oddly placed stains. You > are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just knowing that > you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go > away. You are jetsam who dreams of becoming flotsam. You won’t make > it. I beg for sweet death to come and remove me from a world which > became unbearable when you crawled out of a harpy’s lair. > It is hard to believe how incredibly stupid you are. Stupid as a stone > that the other stones make fun of. So stupid that you have traveled > far beyond stupid as we know it and into a new dimension of stupid. > Meta-stupid. Stupid cubed. Trans-stupid stupid. Stupid collapsed to > a singularity where even the stupons have collapsed into stuponium. > Stupid so dense that no intelligence can escape. Singularity stupid. > Blazing hot summer day on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one > minute than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. It cannot > be possible that anything in our universe can really be this stupid. > This is a primordial fragment from the original big stupid bang. A pure > extract of stupid with absolute stupid purity. Stupid beyond the laws > of nature. The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. > You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, > cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, > belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, > fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, > brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, > self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, > libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, EDLINoid, > illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, > devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, > fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, > suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, > crazy, weird, dyspeptic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, > unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, > mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, > abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, and Generally Not Good. > Sincerely, > etc….

Gee Jim, can I get your permission to use your words as a form letter I can send to my Democrats here in New Jersey. Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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> horseshit?

lol, look it up. i watched it on CNN AND Fox. I don’t think ABC mentioned it though. maybe thats what YOU were watching at the time. Dem’s are losing the minority vote because they think that minorities OWE them their loyalty, all the while NOT addressing concerns that they may have. it is a patronizing form of racism, and it sucks! but it does have a bright side. we (reps) are getting more votes, and minorities (who after all, are Americans first) are getting their concerns addressed without the condescending bs they get from the dems. paul arizona – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a > > racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in > > the White House. > > Mr Soul > heh heh, thats not what the Congressional Black Caucus (NOT a > conservative > group) said. they were pretty hot about it and even held a news > conference > to condemn boxers attacks. she is a racist bitch, mad because "that damn > minority person should have stayed democrat. they OWE us" > paul > arizona > —-== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet > News==—- > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ > Newsgroups > —-= East and West-Coast Server Farms – Total Privacy via Encryption > =—-

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a >> racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in >> the White House. >> Mr Soul > Here’s a letter I thought about sending in reaction to her recent > behavior on committee. > Dear Senator Boxer, > You swine. You vulgar maggot. You worthless bag of filth. > Honestly, I watched Boxer on CSPAN on the raw feed. > She should be ashamed….beyond all of the statements you > made, her statements directed at Rice were among the most > offensive I have seen on CSPAN.

I don’t really take credit for making those statements.  Somebody posted that rant somewhere, and I thought it was a classic and pasted it into a notepad file for future enjoyment. You don’t honestly think that I would talk like that, do you?  ;-) jk

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Boxer asked the correct questions & made sure the appropriate docs, etc., were put into the Senate record.  Rice at al.  over-exaggerated the threat of Iraq, in effect they lied to us & Boxer was holding Rice accountable.  It had nothing to do w/ Rice’s race & you idiots know that. Mr Soul

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a >>racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in >>the White House. >>Mr Soul >Here’s a letter I thought about sending in reaction to her recent >behavior on committee. >Dear Senator Boxer, >You swine. You vulgar maggot. You worthless bag of filth. You >couldn’t pour water out of a boot with instructions >printed on the heel. You are a canker, an open wound. >You’re a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless >worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a >cad, and a weasel. No; you are a festering pustule on a >weasel’s rump. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, >a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon. >I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same >species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at >the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. >Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are >a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. You are a technicolor yawn. >And you smell. >You are a squeaking rat, a mistake of nature and a heavy-metal bagpipe >player. You were not born. You were hatched into an unwilling world >that rejects the likes of you. You didn’t crawl out of a normal egg, >either, but rather a mutant maggot egg rejected by an evil scientist >as being below his low standards. Your alleged parents abandoned you >at birth and then died of shame in recognition of what they had done >to an unsuspecting world. >You are a thick-headed trog. I have seen skeet with more sense than >you have. You are a few bricks short of a full load, a few cards short >of a full deck, a few bytes short of a full core dump, and a few >chromosomes short of a full human. Worse than that, you top-post. God >created houseflies, cockroaches, maggots, mosquitos, fleas, ticks, >slugs, leeches, and intestinal parasites, then he lowered his >standards and made you. I take it back; God didn’t make you. You are >Satan’s spawn. You are Evil beyond comprehension, half-living in the >slough of despair. You are the entropy which will claim us all. You >are a green-nostriled, crossed eyed, hairy-livered inbred >trout-defiler. You make Ebola look good. >You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, >nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You’re a fool, an >ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won’t have sex with >you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in >a land that reality forgot. You are not ANSI compliant and your markup >doesn’t validate. You have a couple of address lines shorted together. >You should be promoted to Engineering Manager. >You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and >obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living >emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a >loathsome disease, a drooling inbred cross-eyed toesucker. Your mother >had to tie a pork chop around your neck just to get your dog to play >with you.  Hee-Haw is too deep for you. You would watch test patterns >all day if the other inmates would let you. >On a good day you’re a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are >deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of >wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. >You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and >sorrow wherever you go. May you choke on your own foolish opinions. >You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. >You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted >boggish foot-licking half-twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You >gormless crook-pated tosser. You bloody churlish boil-brained clotpole >ponce. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You cockered >bum-bailey poofter. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You >dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill. May your >spouse be blessed with many bastards. >You are clueless.  You are so clueless that if you dressed in a clue >skin, doused yourself in clue musk, and did the clue dance in the >middle of a field of horny clues at the height of clue mating season, >you still would not have a clue. >You are a fiend and a sniveling coward, and you have bad breath. You >are the unholy spawn of a bandy-legged hobo and a syphilitic camel. >You wear strangely mismatched clothing with oddly placed stains. You >are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just knowing that >you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go >away. You are jetsam who dreams of becoming flotsam. You won’t make >it. I beg for sweet death to come and remove me from a world which >became unbearable when you crawled out of a harpy’s lair. >It is hard to believe how incredibly stupid you are. Stupid as a stone >that the other stones make fun of. So stupid that you have traveled >far beyond stupid as we know it and into a new dimension of stupid. >Meta-stupid. Stupid cubed. Trans-stupid stupid. Stupid collapsed to >a singularity where even the stupons have collapsed into stuponium. >Stupid so dense that no intelligence can escape. Singularity stupid. >Blazing hot summer day on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one >minute than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. It cannot >be possible that anything in our universe can really be this stupid. >This is a primordial fragment from the original big stupid bang. A pure >extract of stupid with absolute stupid purity. Stupid beyond the laws >of nature. The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. >You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, >cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, >belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, >fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, >brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, >self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, >libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, EDLINoid, >illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, >devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, >fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, >suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, >crazy, weird, dyspeptic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, >unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, >mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, >abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, and Generally Not Good. >Sincerely, >etc…. > Gee Jim, can I get your permission to use your words as a form letter I can send to my Democrats > here in New Jersey.

Sure.  It’s one of those kinds of shoes that fits many feet.  I was saving it for a rainy day.  Just don’t quote me.  I am not the first to have posted it to a newsgroup. jk

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Get a grip, Rich — there was *nothing* the least bit racial about Sen. Boxer’s comments, most of which *directly* referenced Dr. Rice’s own public statements during her gawdawful tenure as national security advisor (by consensus, she was the flat-out worst since the position was created). The Dumber’nyuh regime rewards incompetence like no other in American history — as an academic specializing in a country that no longer exists, Dr. Rice wasn’t qualiied for her former job and, with *zero* experience in diplomacy, she isn’t any more qualified for her current job.  Dumber’nyuh appoints his yes(wo)man friends and doesn’t care whether or not they can pound sand with regard to their assigned duties — and *that’s* why Dr. Rice got the weakest Senate confirmation of a Secretary of State in about *80 years*, Ronald Dumbsfeld still has his job, and Alberto Gonzalez got the weakest Senate confirmation of an AG nominee since the early nineteenth century. These people are simply lousy at their jobs, just like their clueless putz of a boss! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >> And you my friend are not very intelligent because Boxer is not a > >> racist just because she was critical of some of Rice’s past actions in > >> the White House. > >> Mr Soul > > Here’s a letter I thought about sending in reaction to her recent > > behavior on committee. > > Dear Senator Boxer, > > You swine. You vulgar maggot. You worthless bag of filth. > Honestly, I watched Boxer on CSPAN on the raw feed. > She should be ashamed….beyond all of the statements you > made, her statements directed at Rice were among the most > offensive I have seen on CSPAN. > Boxer is clearly far more a devotee of her tribe than a > conduit of the truth. > OTOH, underneath all of it, there were conclusions that Rice > arrived at that were based on imperfect intelligence, and perhaps > Boxer’s implications were just part of the net political cost of > such.  Actually, I’d be surprised if that were not understood by > both parties. > It’s clear to every observer that Boxer’s mud-slinging was not > intended to do anything except to *technically*, and on record, > denigrate an appointee of the opposing party…sand in the wheels > of anything Republican.  There will be more of it, no doubt. > Desperation is like that. > So the story has a happy ending…Condi Rice is Sec. of State, > an rags-to-riches story in a society that makes her apointment > an important landmark…a black female following up a black male > (OK he was half Irish, but there you go…) as Sec of State of the > U.S….and Boxer remains just another footnote…a lock-step > Democrat hatchet-wielding robot. >And if I may add,…… >this is an example from the party that champions the minority’s cause, and achievements. >By their vote, there is a pattern here for all minority’s to take a hard look at, and remember at >the voting booth come time for the next presidential election. >Regards, >Rich Koerner, >Time Electronics. >http://www.timeelect.com >Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, >       Music & Studio Production, >Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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> She should be ashamed….beyond all of the statements you > made, her statements directed at Rice were among the most > offensive I have seen on CSPAN.

It’s Rice that should be ashamed for lying to the world. Barbara Boxer was absolutely correct in calling her on what she’d said.

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> That said, IMO, Bill O’Reilly is a self-serving show-biz cunt.

Astonishing. Fishhead and I agree on something. > But Bill O’Reilly is nothing more than an opportunistic, show-biz, > self-serving, nattering tool.

Whoa. Second time. Stop it. > O’Reilly, IMO, should be ignored more than he is…he is an > intellectual lightweight

Holy Shit. I’m gonna have to get some aspirin.

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in message > And you’re a fool because there’s nothing fair

& balance about O’Reilly > or FOX. > Well, I’ll say this…I am a fiscal

conservative, and a liberal on – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> many social issues…I vote Libertarian lately. > That said, IMO, Bill O’Reilly is a self-serving show-biz cunt. > If CNN gave him a deal that paid him more than his current deal, > he would flip and be similarly pro-Left. > Notice the special diatribes he reserves for those who do not do > his show…far more vehement and petty than those about with he > expresses his disagreement.  See, it’s all about *his show*. > He is about *his show*. Period. He may *say* some things that > resonate with Conservatives, and perhaps more often than he says > things that resonate with Liberals, but it is all about his show, > nothing more. > Bill O’Reilly is a symptom of show biz, nothing more. > If one wants well-crafted, thoughtful,

conservative opinions, > one would read George Will, Chris Hitchens,

Victor David Hanson, > or even Pat Buchanan (have ya read ‘Where the Right Went Wrong’?) > Like the Democrat party, there are differences of opinion among > Conservatives. > But Bill O’Reilly is nothing more than an

opportunistic, show-biz, > self-serving, nattering tool.  He wants to be

Rush, but he does not > have the chops, nor the conviction. > For Liberals to site O’Reilly as somehow

important only highlights > that the Liberals (not ‘liberal’ at all) can not differentiate > between an opportunistic parrot and a writer who carefully considers > and writes a Conservative opinion that is

well-researched, and has a > integrity that goes deeper than the fax message of the day. > In that way, Bill O’Reilly serves a purpose for the right….he > makes the Left look like idiots for all of their sound and fury > against him.

Wrong. He makes himself appear as a half-witted, deranged, rude and stubbornly ignorant but opinionated lackey for political divisiveness while aping and one-upping his predecessor, Rash Limpdick. It’s very difficult to have patience with a bastard like that unless you happen to be one yourself. > He makes the Left look like a bunch of

half-witted, knee-jerk > idiots. > O’Reilly, IMO, should be ignored more than he is…he is an > intellectual lightweight, but, OTOH, a show-biz heavyweight. > That ain’t where I go to seek intelligent

Conservative opinions. If anyone wants to see excellent and unbiased interviews, simply tune into C-SPAN.

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> Get a grip, Rich — there > was *nothing* the least > bit racial about Sen. > Boxer’s comments, most of > which *directly*

lol, a liberal racist defending a liberal racist. that was worth getting up for this morning, heh heh. paul arizona

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> Boxer asked the correct questions & made sure the appropriate docs, > etc., were put into the Senate record.  Rice at al.  over-exaggerated > the threat of Iraq, in effect they lied to us & Boxer was holding Rice > accountable.  It had nothing to do w/ Rice’s race & you idiots know > that. > Mr Soul

lol, we know exactly the opposite. i understand that you liberals believe that it is impossible for any statements by a liberal to be considered racist, but guess what. if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, then its probably a duck, and Boxers comments were racist, meant to "punish" that black gal who should have remained loyal to the dems who have been the "mentors" of blacks like her for a long time. Rice should never have left the democratic "plantation", but since she did, she must be punished, and boxer did her dem duty. its the same situation with rice that we saw with colin powell, rod page, gonzales, thomas and every other republican of minority heritage who has dared to not be a loyal dem. but you keep believing that you are the only rightful "protector" of minorities, lol. whatever. paul arizona

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> Get a grip, Rich — there > was *nothing* the least > bit racial about Sen. > Boxer’s comments, most of > which *directly* > lol, a liberal racist defending a liberal racist. that was worth getting > up for this morning, heh heh. > paul > arizona

Seems ‘dese heah uppity Nigras & Meskis be a-seein’ right through our time honerd left-wing racist, patronizin’ bullshit. Try as we might, we ‘jes kain’t keep ‘dese uppity Nigras down on ‘dat ‘ol DemykRAT welfare plantation. Foist we done got ‘dat damn Clarence Thomas, who ‘dey talkin’ ’bouts makin’ Chief Justice, den dey gots ‘dat damn Colin Powell, now dis uppity Conleeza Rice, DAMN!!! MAybo our ‘ol ace-in-de-ho’, KKK Bobby Byrd can get some ‘o his ‘ol Klansmen buddies to put a stop to ‘dis disgraceful Republikin trend heah!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Get a grip, Rich — there >> was *nothing* the least >> bit racial about Sen. >> Boxer’s comments, most of >> which *directly* > lol, a liberal racist defending a liberal racist. that was worth getting > up for this morning, heh heh. > paul > arizona > Seems ‘dese heah uppity Nigras & Meskis be a-seein’ right through our time > honerd left-wing racist, patronizin’ bullshit. Try as we might, we ‘jes > kain’t keep ‘dese uppity Nigras down on ‘dat ‘ol DemykRAT welfare > plantation. Foist we done got ‘dat damn Clarence Thomas, who ‘dey talkin’ > ’bouts makin’ Chief Justice, den dey gots ‘dat damn Colin Powell, now dis > uppity Conleeza Rice, DAMN!!! MAybo our ‘ol ace-in-de-ho’, KKK Bobby Byrd > can get some ‘o his ‘ol Klansmen buddies to put a stop to ‘dis disgraceful > Republikin trend heah!

Glad to see that you’re not going to raise the intellectual level of your posts, Soker. Any appointment made by Dubya involving a member of a minority is done first based on blind allegiance to Dubya’s agenda and then to present Repuklicans as champions of the rights of minorities at large. It’s merely done to get minority votes. Ms. Rice has certainly shown that she’s willing to blindly follow Dubya. In truth, Repuklicans don’t give a shit about anyone’s rights other than the rich and the religious. Bob

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>>That said, IMO, Bill O’Reilly is a self-serving show-biz cunt. > Astonishing. Fishhead and I agree on something.

 > Whoa. Second time. Stop it. Oh come on…after all this time, is it really that ‘astonishing’? You ought to have gotten used to being right twice a day after all these years.

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Yes I remember now there was a conection with Prostart and AutoStart. I remember a customer brought in a AutoStart to install one time and it was just like a ProStart. I will check out the AstroFlex and see what they offer locally.   I’ll stay away from Bulldog I thought the might be ok being built in the USA. Unlike most everything at Wal-mart that comes from China!

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     In my 15 years of selling and installing remote car starters, I have worked with just about all of them.  I would not touch a Bulldog product. Prostart is Autostart’s old technology built for Canadian Tire.  The part number is even CT####.  The most versatile and reliable product I have worked with is Astroflex. Check them out at astroflex.com.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a couple brands of Car starters for sale in the paper. The > ProStart and BullDog brands. They are both at the same price of $50.00 and > look to be what want. > I have put the prostart brand in cars before… about 9 years go though! > Back then we didn’t have the net and product support was terrible. Luckly > we had service manuals and usally were able to figure it out. But as the > cars got newer with alarms  it became more time consuming! > I’ve heard that now some of these car starter manufacturers have good web > support on wire color codes and locations etc.  Just wondering what brand > to go with so I don’t have to spend all day searching and poking around > for wires!

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I use the Audiovox: Prestige line: Sometimes just Audiovox. There are other brands: Stinger, Code-Alarm, Viper, but you can’t compete with the direct purchasers on installed price. I get the wiring diagram, vehicle specific from the vendor I buy from. Refinish King

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> There is a couple brands of Car starters for sale in the paper. The > ProStart and BullDog brands. They are both at the same price of $50.00 and > look to be what want. > I have put the prostart brand in cars before… about 9 years go though! > Back then we didn’t have the net and product support was terrible. Luckly > we had service manuals and usally were able to figure it out. But as the > cars got newer with alarms  it became more time consuming! > I’ve heard that now some of these car starter manufacturers have good web > support on wire color codes and locations etc.  Just wondering what brand > to go with so I don’t have to spend all day searching and poking around > for wires!

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There is a couple brands of Car starters for sale in the paper. The ProStart and BullDog brands. They are both at the same price of $50.00 and look to be what want. I have put the prostart brand in cars before… about 9 years go though! Back then we didn’t have the net and product support was terrible. Luckly we had service manuals and usally were able to figure it out. But as the cars got newer with alarms  it became more time consuming! I’ve heard that now some of these car starter manufacturers have good web support on wire color codes and locations etc.  Just wondering what brand to go with so I don’t have to spend all day searching and poking around for wires!

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Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on the bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker (think it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought there may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while retaining the top end. Any ideas?

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>Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s >Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on the >bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker (think >it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought there >may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while retaining >the top end. Any ideas?

I haven’t tried them yet, but Avatar has some British made Celestion Vox Bulldog 10" speakers for sale at a very good price.  They seem to be for a Vox combo, but I’m going to try them in a closed back 4×10 cabinet.  Next project. They’re a good enough price, that they’re probably worth a try.  I got four of them for way less than it cost me to buy the four alnico Eminence speakers that’re in my cabinet now. Pete — One egg left?  For a nutritious breakfast, two eggs is the minimum requirement!  And I have but one, which is one shy of two!  And it is two that I need! Curses!!! –Mojo Jojo

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>Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s >Princeton Reverb?

        I’ve put Celestion Vintage 10s in a few (sounds like a baby V30). Now discontinued, but still a few out there. Eminence now has a few 10s that look promising for big lows from a 10, especially the RamRod.

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I got the 16ohm versions.  I guess the 8ohm version sells faster. Pete >I just ordered one of these speakers for a cool little amp I just won on >eBay.  (See my post below about "tube substitutions").  The person at >Avatar said they have very few of the 8 ohm speakers left. >eric > That’s nice work, Pete!

– One egg left?  For a nutritious breakfast, two eggs is the minimum requirement!  And I have but one, which is one shy of two!  And it is two that I need! Curses!!! –Mojo Jojo

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> Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s > Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on the > bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker (think > it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought there > may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while retaining > the top end. Any ideas?

- Weber 10F150T w/50w v/c, undoped; huge bottom & loud/efficient for size/price, good balance with highs through range. – Weber C10CA w/paper cap, undoped; slightly less bottom/efficiency than above though still plenty big/loud compared to stock, superior lead spkr, heavy fkr, indestructible in a PR, colorless & faithful (i.e., will bring out every good thing in your amp/axe/hands, and every crap thing or sloppy playing if you aren’t any good).  Sort of a poor man’s JBL. I use both & switch from time to time depending upon primary use for the little PR.

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Call Weber-VST (765)452-1249.  Or, go to http://www.webervst.com/. Personally, I would call.  You can talk to a real live human being, who will then actually make the speaker you want. eric – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s > Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on the > bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker (think > it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought there > may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while retaining > the top end. Any ideas?

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>That’s nice work, Pete!

Thanks Phil.  It’s a pile of parts at the moment, but I got a little bit farther on it, and I think I’m done shielding it now.  I just updated the page about the shielding a few minutes ago: http://lasttelecaster.home.comcast.net/strat/StratTwo.htm I’m too exhausted to get up and go to bed.  I just restrung my neighbor’s daughter’s beginner’s guitar this evening, and it’s one of those horible cheap guitars that you can’t tune.  I think that I need to tell her that she needs to get her kid a better guitar.  I don’t think that it’s worth installing better tuners. I’m going to have to figure out how to deal with this situation.  This thing is worse than my first guitar, and that’s just not good. Pete — One egg left?  For a nutritious breakfast, two eggs is the minimum requirement!  And I have but one, which is one shy of two!  And it is two that I need! Curses!!! –Mojo Jojo

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my > mid-70’s > >Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on > the > >bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker > (think > >it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought > there > >may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while > retaining > >the top end. Any ideas? > I haven’t tried them yet, but Avatar has some British made Celestion > Vox Bulldog 10" speakers for sale at a very good price.  They seem to > be for a Vox combo, but I’m going to try them in a closed back 4×10 > cabinet.  Next project. > They’re a good enough price, that they’re probably worth a try.  I got > four of them for way less than it cost me to buy the four alnico > Eminence speakers that’re in my cabinet now. > Pete > — > One egg left?  For a nutritious breakfast, two eggs is the > minimum requirement!  And I have but one, which is one shy > of two!  And it is two that I need! Curses!!! –Mojo Jojo > Pete, > If you keep giving out this secret, he’s gonna run out of them before I > have > a chance to make up my mind! > Phil

 Thanks veryone for the suggestions. BTW, does Kendrick still make speakers? I have pairs in an old Brownface 2×10 Super and in a 2xd12 BF Pro Reverb and they sound fabulous.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> >Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my >mid-70’s >> >Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on >the >> >bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker >(think >> >it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought >there >> >may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while >retaining >> >the top end. Any ideas? >> I haven’t tried them yet, but Avatar has some British made Celestion >> Vox Bulldog 10" speakers for sale at a very good price.  They seem to >> be for a Vox combo, but I’m going to try them in a closed back 4×10 >> cabinet.  Next project. >> They’re a good enough price, that they’re probably worth a try.  I got >> four of them for way less than it cost me to buy the four alnico >> Eminence speakers that’re in my cabinet now. >> Pete >> — >> One egg left?  For a nutritious breakfast, two eggs is the >> minimum requirement!  And I have but one, which is one shy >> of two!  And it is two that I need! Curses!!! –Mojo Jojo >Pete, >If you keep giving out this secret, he’s gonna run out of them before I have >a chance to make up my mind! >Phil > Oops, sorry.  I kept my mouth shut about his having the H12H-80 > speakers for the longest time, but he still seems to have some. > I should have asked Dave how many he has.  He sounded like he must > have over 100, because he said something to the effect of how I was > welcome order 100 of them.  I forget how that came up because we were > talking for a while about my wanting to do a 4/16ohm switch. > I sort of got side tracked on installing those Celestion/Vox speakers > by my Last Stratocaster project.  So it’ll be a while before I get to > hear them  Check out my new index page: > http://lasttelecaster.home.comcast.net/ > Fun with html.  And on each webpage, I use the house from Green Acres > as a "Home" button.  That was a fun way to delay working on the > guitar. > Pete > — > One egg left?  For a nutritious breakfast, two eggs is the > minimum requirement!  And I have but one, which is one shy > of two!  And it is two that I need! Curses!!! –Mojo Jojo

That’s nice work, Pete!

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I just ordered one of these speakers for a cool little amp I just won on eBay.  (See my post below about "tube substitutions").  The person at Avatar said they have very few of the 8 ohm speakers left. eric – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > That’s nice work, Pete!

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> Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s > Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on the > bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker (think > it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought there > may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while retaining > the top end. Any ideas?

I use a Weber C10Q (before Ted changed the names).

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my >mid-70’s > >Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on >the > >bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker >(think > >it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought >there > >may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while >retaining > >the top end. Any ideas? > I haven’t tried them yet, but Avatar has some British made Celestion > Vox Bulldog 10" speakers for sale at a very good price.  They seem to > be for a Vox combo, but I’m going to try them in a closed back 4×10 > cabinet.  Next project. > They’re a good enough price, that they’re probably worth a try.  I got > four of them for way less than it cost me to buy the four alnico > Eminence speakers that’re in my cabinet now. > Pete > — > One egg left?  For a nutritious breakfast, two eggs is the > minimum requirement!  And I have but one, which is one shy > of two!  And it is two that I need! Curses!!! –Mojo Jojo >Pete, >If you keep giving out this secret, he’s gonna run out of them before I have >a chance to make up my mind! >Phil

Oops, sorry.  I kept my mouth shut about his having the H12H-80 speakers for the longest time, but he still seems to have some. I should have asked Dave how many he has.  He sounded like he must have over 100, because he said something to the effect of how I was welcome order 100 of them.  I forget how that came up because we were talking for a while about my wanting to do a 4/16ohm switch. I sort of got side tracked on installing those Celestion/Vox speakers by my Last Stratocaster project.  So it’ll be a while before I get to hear them  Check out my new index page: http://lasttelecaster.home.comcast.net/ Fun with html.  And on each webpage, I use the house from Green Acres as a "Home" button.  That was a fun way to delay working on the guitar. Pete — One egg left?  For a nutritious breakfast, two eggs is the minimum requirement!  And I have but one, which is one shy of two!  And it is two that I need! Curses!!! –Mojo Jojo

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my > mid-70’s >>Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on > the >>bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker > (think >>it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought > there >>may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while > retaining >>the top end. Any ideas? >I haven’t tried them yet, but Avatar has some British made Celestion >Vox Bulldog 10" speakers for sale at a very good price.  They seem to >be for a Vox combo, but I’m going to try them in a closed back 4×10 >cabinet.  Next project. >They’re a good enough price, that they’re probably worth a try.  I got >four of them for way less than it cost me to buy the four alnico >Eminence speakers that’re in my cabinet now. >Pete >– >One egg left?  For a nutritious breakfast, two eggs is the >minimum requirement!  And I have but one, which is one shy >of two!  And it is two that I need! Curses!!! –Mojo Jojo > Pete, > If you keep giving out this secret, he’s gonna run out of them before I have > a chance to make up my mind! > Phil

Hi, He is close enough from me. I am gonna drive down there and buy them all up, LOL. Tony

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s >Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on the >bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker (think >it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought there >may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while retaining >the top end. Any ideas? > I haven’t tried them yet, but Avatar has some British made Celestion > Vox Bulldog 10" speakers for sale at a very good price.  They seem to > be for a Vox combo, but I’m going to try them in a closed back 4×10 > cabinet.  Next project. > They’re a good enough price, that they’re probably worth a try.  I got > four of them for way less than it cost me to buy the four alnico > Eminence speakers that’re in my cabinet now. > Pete > — > One egg left?  For a nutritious breakfast, two eggs is the > minimum requirement!  And I have but one, which is one shy > of two!  And it is two that I need! Curses!!! –Mojo Jojo

Pete, If you keep giving out this secret, he’s gonna run out of them before I have a chance to make up my mind! Phil

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>Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s >Princeton Reverb? The original speaker works but sounds pretty farty on the >bottom end. I swapped in an early 90’s blue frame RI Bassman speaker (think >it’s an Eminence) I had laying around and that helped a lot. Thought there >may be a really good one out there that will hold the bottom while retaining >the top end. Any ideas?

Reverend All-Tone 1025 — afaik made by Eminience to Joe Naylor’s specs and imo quite reasonably priced.   My younger son has the earlier 1030 model in his Princeton-sized tube amp and it’s sounds both big ‘n beefy and chimey-clear.   Joe says the 1025 is even better and I tend to believe him. <http://reverenddirect.com/reverend/amps_etc/alltone_1025_speaker.html>        Posted via TITANnews – Uncensored Newsgroups Access              >>>> at http://www.TitanNews.com <<<< -=Every Newsgroup – Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=-

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No mention of the Reverend 1025? I haven’t installed mine in my whiteface Gibson Skylark yet, but the Alltone 1250 was a massive improvement for my Fender  Blues Jr. They’re relatively cheap. Y’all try ‘em. By the way, no affiliaton other than as a satisfied customer. Looking forward to other input. Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I got the 16ohm versions.  I guess the 8ohm version sells faster. >Pete >I just ordered one of these speakers for a cool little amp I just won on >eBay.  (See my post below about "tube substitutions").  The person at >Avatar said they have very few of the 8 ohm speakers left. >eric >> That’s nice work, Pete!

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> Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s > Princeton Reverb?

I have a JBL E110 in mine. There’s a number of pickers in this neck of the woods that particularly covet this amp, so I guess it was a good choice. Joe Liberty in my Lifetime! http://q-music.com

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>>Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s >Princeton Reverb? > I have a JBL E110 in mine. There’s a number of pickers in this neck of the > woods that particularly covet this amp, so I guess it was a good choice. > Joe > Liberty in my Lifetime! > http://q-music.com

I put a WeberVST C10Q in mine..some folks like the C10NQ as well (not as bright).

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I have a celestion vintage 10 …I like it ..haven’t tried anything else..yet..

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my >>mid-70’s Princeton Reverb? > I have a JBL E110 in mine. There’s a number of pickers in this neck of > the woods that particularly covet this amp, so I guess it was a good > choice. > Joe > Liberty in my Lifetime! > http://q-music.com > I put a WeberVST C10Q in mine..some folks like the C10NQ as well (not as > bright).

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I have a Weber C10NQ in my 1971 Princeton Reverb and like it a lot.  Not quite as bright as stated but it has a ton more low end than the C10Q.  I got mine with a doped surround so I wouldn’t get ghost notes.  I believe the model numbers have changed since the C10NQ.  As I recall, if you google it, you can find a conversion chart. Wayne

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my >>mid-70’s Princeton Reverb? > I have a JBL E110 in mine. There’s a number of pickers in this neck of > the woods that particularly covet this amp, so I guess it was a good > choice. > Joe > Liberty in my Lifetime! > http://q-music.com > I put a WeberVST C10Q in mine..some folks like the C10NQ as well (not as > bright).

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I have a Weber C10Q (not sure what the new model number is) in mine and it was a mega improvement over the original Oxford.  It has a tight bottom end and is very chimey.  Another speaker which I’m using in an Allen Old Flame is the Reverend Alltone 10" that they sell for about $40.  This speaker sounds fabulous in the Allen and is very light in weight.  I’ve never tried one in the PR but it could be a good choice. Vic Reyes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my mid-70’s > Princeton Reverb? >I have a JBL E110 in mine. There’s a number of pickers in this neck of the >woods that particularly covet this amp, so I guess it was a good choice. >Joe >Liberty in my Lifetime! >http://q-music.com

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Wayne flew overhead yelling: > I have a Weber C10NQ in my 1971 Princeton Reverb and like it a lot.  Not > quite as bright as stated but it has a ton more low end than the C10Q.  I > got mine with a doped surround so I wouldn’t get ghost notes.

Most of the hardcore PR players I know use the Weber C10NQ or C10Q (a couple use the C10N).  A few more use the P versions.  They all love their Weber VST speakers in their PRs. > I believe the > model numbers have changed since the C10NQ.  As I recall, if you google it, > you can find a conversion chart.

There should be one on their site, but if not, just write or call and ask. -GJ

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>I have a Weber C10Q (not sure what the new model number is) in mine and it >was > a mega improvement over the original Oxford.  It has a tight bottom end > and is > very chimey.  Another speaker which I’m using in an Allen Old Flame is the > Reverend Alltone 10" that they sell for about $40.  This speaker sounds > fabulous in the Allen and is very light in weight.  I’ve never tried one > in the > PR but it could be a good choice. > Vic Reyes

I believe the Reverend is made by Eminence Harry J

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>> Anyone got a good suggestion for a 10" replacement speaker for my > mid-70’s Princeton Reverb? > I have a JBL E110 in mine. There’s a number of pickers in this neck of the > woods that particularly covet this amp, so I guess it was a good choice. > Joe > Liberty in my Lifetime! > http://q-music.com

I know it’s way overkill, but I put in a Weber Chicago that I had lyin’ around. Man did that come to life! Harry Jacobson www.harryj.net

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http://danrathermustgo.com/ Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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> http://danrathermustgo.com/

Sacking Dan Rather does precisely shit. He’s a talking head, and has maybe a couple of years max left in him. I don’t lay the whole thing on Dan Rather…I believe he had many willing support staff that took the bait… and you better believe, they are *hoping* Dan Rather is the one to take the fall.  The watercooler talk in that building has got to be interesting. That said, I don’t care *if* Dan Rather fell for this one… the most despicable, incompetant, biased, talking head on the broadcast news is Peter Jennings, IMO. Far, far worse than Rather or Brokaw. ‘Unprofessional’, many say.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> http://danrathermustgo.com/ >Sacking Dan Rather does precisely shit. >He’s a talking head, and has maybe a couple of years >max left in him. >I don’t lay the whole thing on Dan Rather…I believe >he had many willing support staff that took the bait… >and you better believe, they are *hoping* Dan Rather is >the one to take the fall.  The watercooler talk in that >building has got to be interesting. >That said, I don’t care *if* Dan Rather fell for this one… >the most despicable, incompetant, biased, talking head on the >broadcast news is Peter Jennings, IMO. >Far, far worse than Rather or Brokaw. >’Unprofessional’, many say.

I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame. I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making blatant attempts to influence politics. If they would call their liberal news what it is, "Leftwing News", then it would be a little bit more acceptable.  They need to run the same type of disclaimer that they run before showing an infomercial. Something to inform people that what they’re about to see isn’t *really* news, but an attempt to influence how the viewer votes. Pete —                                             –Plank

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> I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the > website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame.

CBS should have kept Walter Cronkite and traded Dan Rather to ABC for Peter Jennings and 2 cable-channel players to be named later, 25 years ago. Why CBS can’t get it in their heads (merely by reading Nielsen reports) that Dan Rather sucks, did suck, and always will suck, I have no idea. The only reason I can imagine that Dan Rather still has a job at CBS is that he’s sucking or kissing something very disgusting. > I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and > radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making > blatant attempts to influence politics.

Golly, Pete, have you ever tried reading the press in other English language countries, like Australia, England & Ireland? They usually have a no quarter given cynical attitude about politicians in general, an attitude that I think the US press (which is practically an administration handmaiden in comparison to even the Canadian press) would do well to emulate. Giving politicos a free pass from criticism is an invitation to abuse. Here’s another idea: have the US President defend his positions in front of Congress every week, same way the Prime Minister in England does during Question Time, instead of living in a cocoon of brown-nosing cheerleading sycophants who don’t dare question his policies. I bet GWB would’ve been a bit better prepared for debates if he’d had to do QT once a week. — Ned Carlson Triode Electronics Chicago,IL USA www.triodeelectronics.com

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ha ha ha haha. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I bet GWB would’ve been a bit better prepared for debates if > he’d had to do QT once a week.

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Dan Rather makes a report based on documents that CBS can no longer verify, and he must go? BUSH lied to us about Iraq seeking "yellow cake."  Shouldn’t he be held to a higher standard than a news reporter? BUSH MUST

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>> I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the > website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame. >CBS should have kept Walter Cronkite and traded Dan Rather >to ABC for Peter Jennings and 2 cable-channel players to >be named later, 25 years ago. Why CBS can’t get it in their >heads (merely by reading Nielsen reports) that Dan Rather sucks, >did suck, and always will suck, I have no idea. The only reason >I can imagine that Dan Rather still has a job at CBS is that >he’s sucking or kissing something very disgusting.

Peter Jennings is just another network’s Dan Rather > I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and > radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making > blatant attempts to influence politics. >Golly, Pete, have you ever tried reading the press in other English >language countries, like Australia, England & Ireland? They usually >have a no quarter given cynical attitude about politicians in general, >an attitude that I think the US press (which is practically >an administration handmaiden in comparison to even the Canadian >press) would do well to emulate. Giving politicos a free >pass from criticism is an invitation to abuse.

Here’s the way all liberal media works. War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good         <repeat> War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good         <repeat> War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good         <repeat> War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good         <repeat> And none of them are willing to admit that what Bush did was amazingly successful when he said he was waging war on terrorists, and he took down two of the most dangerous governments in the mid east in less than four years. Here’s another trick of the liberal media, they’ve got half of the country believing that it matters that nobody found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.  When we know that Hussein has used them, and they know he could make them whenever he wanted.  And anyone who’s paying attention knows what a dangerous man he was, and that he’s filled more mass graves than imaginable with people who didn’t agree with him. Liberal media refuses to admit that the man was dangerous, and needed to be removed from power. George Bush did that, and you and everyone else should be thanking him for ignoring the UN who was bought and paid for by Hussein. >Here’s another idea: have the US President defend his >positions in front of Congress every week, same way the >Prime Minister in England does during Question Time, instead >of living in a cocoon of brown-nosing cheerleading >sycophants who don’t dare question his policies.

You must think that that’s a part of the president’s job for some reason. Pete —                                             –Plank

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>BUSH lied to us about Iraq seeking "yellow cake."

        Here’s a really interesting link about that. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A32195-2004Jul6?language=pri… > Shouldn’t he be held to a higher standard than a news reporter?

        Absolutely. It pains me that things like the above are not repeatedly hammered on by the administration. Their lack of doing so leads to a lot of problems and misconceptions. Their publicity people suck, and pretty much always have. There is so much left unsaid.

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>Dan Rather makes a report based on documents that CBS can no >longer verify, and he must go?

    He didn’t just "make a report" … he is also (still) managing editor. Which means he is responsible for all content, and whether or not to fo with a story.  His "responsibility" (if there even is one), is to make headlines and exclusives.     Don’t even dare to think that Rather has the responsibility of protecting the population of the US, as Bush does.  Bush made his decisions based on the premise of the best route to go in order to save as many American lives as possible based on many scenarios.     And I guess you missed the story where Tony Blair stated that the intel was based on more than just documents, and that he still believes that their intel "is correct".  Either that, or you like to conveninetly leave out poignant *facts*.     Besides, I would rather have it that Bush (… or any President or intel Agency) err on the side of our safety when it comes to the safety of the American public, as long as the intel comes from a proven reliable source.  In this case, it did. Lostpup198 "I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence. There’s a knob called "brightness", but it doesn’t work." — Gallagher Comedian

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the >> website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame. >CBS should have kept Walter Cronkite and traded Dan Rather >to ABC for Peter Jennings and 2 cable-channel players to >be named later, 25 years ago. Why CBS can’t get it in their >heads (merely by reading Nielsen reports) that Dan Rather sucks, >did suck, and always will suck, I have no idea. The only reason >I can imagine that Dan Rather still has a job at CBS is that >he’s sucking or kissing something very disgusting. >Peter Jennings is just another network’s Dan Rather >> I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and >> radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making >> blatant attempts to influence politics. >Golly, Pete, have you ever tried reading the press in other English >language countries, like Australia, England & Ireland? They usually >have a no quarter given cynical attitude about politicians in general, >an attitude that I think the US press (which is practically >an administration handmaiden in comparison to even the Canadian >press) would do well to emulate. Giving politicos a free >pass from criticism is an invitation to abuse. >Here’s the way all liberal media works. >War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >    <repeat> >War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >    <repeat> >War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >    <repeat> >War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >    <repeat> >And none of them are willing to admit that what Bush did was amazingly >successful when he said he was waging war on terrorists, and he took >down two of the most dangerous governments in the mid east in less >than four years. >Here’s another trick of the liberal media, they’ve got half of the >country believing that it matters that nobody found any weapons of >mass destruction in Iraq.  When we know that Hussein has used them, >and they know he could make them whenever he wanted.  And anyone who’s >paying attention knows what a dangerous man he was, and that he’s >filled more mass graves than imaginable with people who didn’t agree >with him. >Liberal media refuses to admit that the man was dangerous, and needed >to be removed from power. >George Bush did that, and you and everyone else should be thanking him >for ignoring the UN who was bought and paid for by Hussein. >Here’s another idea: have the US President defend his >positions in front of Congress every week, same way the >Prime Minister in England does during Question Time, instead >of living in a cocoon of brown-nosing cheerleading >sycophants who don’t dare question his policies. >You must think that that’s a part of the president’s job for some >reason.

Right about now Morvo from Futurama would be more credible than Rather. Claude

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I admired Dan Rather for going after and asking the tough questions to Tricky Dicky just like Sam Donaldson used to hound Ronnie Raygunn. But nowdays, there is no bulldog representing the American people’s right to know. And now there’s a campaign to stifle it and the morons of the population are all for it? What a pathetic bunch of chumps. Rather made a mistake – fire him. Bush lied and thousands died. Oh, he gets to stay. This is going on in a parallel universe, right? No, it’s here! Really? But who would have thought there could be so many fucking stupid people? Mass hypnosis?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> http://danrathermustgo.com/ > Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Time Electronics. > http://www.timeelect.com > Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, >        Music & Studio Production, > Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>> I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the >>> website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame. >>CBS should have kept Walter Cronkite and traded Dan Rather >>to ABC for Peter Jennings and 2 cable-channel players to >>be named later, 25 years ago. Why CBS can’t get it in their >>heads (merely by reading Nielsen reports) that Dan Rather sucks, >>did suck, and always will suck, I have no idea. The only reason >>I can imagine that Dan Rather still has a job at CBS is that >>he’s sucking or kissing something very disgusting. >Peter Jennings is just another network’s Dan Rather >>> I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and >>> radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making >>> blatant attempts to influence politics. >>Golly, Pete, have you ever tried reading the press in other English >>language countries, like Australia, England & Ireland? They usually >>have a no quarter given cynical attitude about politicians in general, >>an attitude that I think the US press (which is practically >>an administration handmaiden in comparison to even the Canadian >>press) would do well to emulate. Giving politicos a free >>pass from criticism is an invitation to abuse. >Here’s the way all liberal media works. >War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >        <repeat> >War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >        <repeat> >War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >        <repeat> >War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >        <repeat> >And none of them are willing to admit that what Bush did was amazingly >successful when he said he was waging war on terrorists, and he took >down two of the most dangerous governments in the mid east in less >than four years. >Here’s another trick of the liberal media, they’ve got half of the >country believing that it matters that nobody found any weapons of >mass destruction in Iraq.  When we know that Hussein has used them, >and they know he could make them whenever he wanted.  And anyone who’s >paying attention knows what a dangerous man he was, and that he’s >filled more mass graves than imaginable with people who didn’t agree >with him. >Liberal media refuses to admit that the man was dangerous, and needed >to be removed from power. >George Bush did that, and you and everyone else should be thanking him >for ignoring the UN who was bought and paid for by Hussein. >>Here’s another idea: have the US President defend his >>positions in front of Congress every week, same way the >>Prime Minister in England does during Question Time, instead >>of living in a cocoon of brown-nosing cheerleading >>sycophants who don’t dare question his policies. >You must think that that’s a part of the president’s job for some >reason. >Right about now Morvo from Futurama would be more credible than Rather. >Claude

Morvo was one of the best characters on that show.  Another good character is Lrrr, ruler of the planet Omicron Persei VIII Last night, they showed the Family Guy episode where the anchorman lied and told everyone that one of the scrolls had been found for winning a look inside this brewery that nobody had ever been the inside of before, so he apologizes and sticks an earwig into his ear: Tom Tucker: "What I did was wrong…… and as an act of contrition, I will now insert this carnivorous earwig into my brain." Now I’m not saying that Dan Rather should stick a carnivorous earwig into his ear, but I’m not saying he shouldn’t either. Pete —                                             –Plank

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>> I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the >>>> website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame. >>>CBS should have kept Walter Cronkite and traded Dan Rather >>>to ABC for Peter Jennings and 2 cable-channel players to >>>be named later, 25 years ago. Why CBS can’t get it in their >>>heads (merely by reading Nielsen reports) that Dan Rather sucks, >>>did suck, and always will suck, I have no idea. The only reason >>>I can imagine that Dan Rather still has a job at CBS is that >>>he’s sucking or kissing something very disgusting. >>Peter Jennings is just another network’s Dan Rather >>>> I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and >>>> radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making >>>> blatant attempts to influence politics. >>>Golly, Pete, have you ever tried reading the press in other English >>>language countries, like Australia, England & Ireland? They usually >>>have a no quarter given cynical attitude about politicians in general, >>>an attitude that I think the US press (which is practically >>>an administration handmaiden in comparison to even the Canadian >>>press) would do well to emulate. Giving politicos a free >>>pass from criticism is an invitation to abuse. >>Here’s the way all liberal media works. >>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>    <repeat> >>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>    <repeat> >>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>    <repeat> >>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>    <repeat> >>And none of them are willing to admit that what Bush did was amazingly >>successful when he said he was waging war on terrorists, and he took >>down two of the most dangerous governments in the mid east in less >>than four years. >>Here’s another trick of the liberal media, they’ve got half of the >>country believing that it matters that nobody found any weapons of >>mass destruction in Iraq.  When we know that Hussein has used them, >>and they know he could make them whenever he wanted.  And anyone who’s >>paying attention knows what a dangerous man he was, and that he’s >>filled more mass graves than imaginable with people who didn’t agree >>with him. >>Liberal media refuses to admit that the man was dangerous, and needed >>to be removed from power. >>George Bush did that, and you and everyone else should be thanking him >>for ignoring the UN who was bought and paid for by Hussein. >>>Here’s another idea: have the US President defend his >>>positions in front of Congress every week, same way the >>>Prime Minister in England does during Question Time, instead >>>of living in a cocoon of brown-nosing cheerleading >>>sycophants who don’t dare question his policies. >>You must think that that’s a part of the president’s job for some >>reason. >Right about now Morvo from Futurama would be more credible than Rather. >Claude >Morvo was one of the best characters on that show.  Another good >character is Lrrr, ruler of the planet Omicron Persei VIII >Last night, they showed the Family Guy episode where the anchorman >lied and told everyone that one of the scrolls had been found for >winning a look inside this brewery that nobody had ever been the >inside of before, so he apologizes and sticks an earwig into his ear: >Tom Tucker: "What I did was wrong…… and as an act of contrition, I >will now insert this carnivorous earwig into my brain." >Now I’m not saying that Dan Rather should stick a carnivorous earwig >into his ear, but I’m not saying he shouldn’t either.

Live on the 6 PM CBS Evening News would be good. Extensive pre-insertion publicity is a must, so those of us like myself who haven’t bothered to watch the cretin for many years now can make it a point to tune in. An appropriate act of contrition for old Dan, as well. Then Morvo takes over. Ratings soar. Claude

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>> I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the >>>>> website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame. >>>>CBS should have kept Walter Cronkite and traded Dan Rather >>>>to ABC for Peter Jennings and 2 cable-channel players to >>>>be named later, 25 years ago. Why CBS can’t get it in their >>>>heads (merely by reading Nielsen reports) that Dan Rather sucks, >>>>did suck, and always will suck, I have no idea. The only reason >>>>I can imagine that Dan Rather still has a job at CBS is that >>>>he’s sucking or kissing something very disgusting. >>>Peter Jennings is just another network’s Dan Rather >>>>> I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and >>>>> radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making >>>>> blatant attempts to influence politics. >>>>Golly, Pete, have you ever tried reading the press in other English >>>>language countries, like Australia, England & Ireland? They usually >>>>have a no quarter given cynical attitude about politicians in general, >>>>an attitude that I think the US press (which is practically >>>>an administration handmaiden in comparison to even the Canadian >>>>press) would do well to emulate. Giving politicos a free >>>>pass from criticism is an invitation to abuse. >>>Here’s the way all liberal media works. >>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>        <repeat> >>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>        <repeat> >>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>        <repeat> >>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>        <repeat> >>>And none of them are willing to admit that what Bush did was amazingly >>>successful when he said he was waging war on terrorists, and he took >>>down two of the most dangerous governments in the mid east in less >>>than four years. >>>Here’s another trick of the liberal media, they’ve got half of the >>>country believing that it matters that nobody found any weapons of >>>mass destruction in Iraq.  When we know that Hussein has used them, >>>and they know he could make them whenever he wanted.  And anyone who’s >>>paying attention knows what a dangerous man he was, and that he’s >>>filled more mass graves than imaginable with people who didn’t agree >>>with him. >>>Liberal media refuses to admit that the man was dangerous, and needed >>>to be removed from power. >>>George Bush did that, and you and everyone else should be thanking him >>>for ignoring the UN who was bought and paid for by Hussein. >>>>Here’s another idea: have the US President defend his >>>>positions in front of Congress every week, same way the >>>>Prime Minister in England does during Question Time, instead >>>>of living in a cocoon of brown-nosing cheerleading >>>>sycophants who don’t dare question his policies. >>>You must think that that’s a part of the president’s job for some >>>reason. >>Right about now Morvo from Futurama would be more credible than Rather. >>Claude >Morvo was one of the best characters on that show.  Another good >character is Lrrr, ruler of the planet Omicron Persei VIII >Last night, they showed the Family Guy episode where the anchorman >lied and told everyone that one of the scrolls had been found for >winning a look inside this brewery that nobody had ever been the >inside of before, so he apologizes and sticks an earwig into his ear: >Tom Tucker: "What I did was wrong…… and as an act of contrition, I >will now insert this carnivorous earwig into my brain." >Now I’m not saying that Dan Rather should stick a carnivorous earwig >into his ear, but I’m not saying he shouldn’t either. >Live on the 6 PM CBS Evening News would be good. >Extensive pre-insertion publicity is a must, so those of us >like myself who haven’t bothered to watch the cretin for >many years now can make it a point to tune in. >An appropriate act of contrition for old Dan, as well. >Then Morvo takes over. Ratings soar. >Claude

Morbo: Pitiful human anchorman!!! I will destroy you! —                                             –Plank

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>>> I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the >>>>>> website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame. >>>>>CBS should have kept Walter Cronkite and traded Dan Rather >>>>>to ABC for Peter Jennings and 2 cable-channel players to >>>>>be named later, 25 years ago. Why CBS can’t get it in their >>>>>heads (merely by reading Nielsen reports) that Dan Rather sucks, >>>>>did suck, and always will suck, I have no idea. The only reason >>>>>I can imagine that Dan Rather still has a job at CBS is that >>>>>he’s sucking or kissing something very disgusting. >>>>Peter Jennings is just another network’s Dan Rather >>>>>> I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and >>>>>> radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making >>>>>> blatant attempts to influence politics. >>>>>Golly, Pete, have you ever tried reading the press in other English >>>>>language countries, like Australia, England & Ireland? They usually >>>>>have a no quarter given cynical attitude about politicians in general, >>>>>an attitude that I think the US press (which is practically >>>>>an administration handmaiden in comparison to even the Canadian >>>>>press) would do well to emulate. Giving politicos a free >>>>>pass from criticism is an invitation to abuse. >>>>Here’s the way all liberal media works. >>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>    <repeat> >>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>    <repeat> >>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>    <repeat> >>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>    <repeat> >>>>And none of them are willing to admit that what Bush did was amazingly >>>>successful when he said he was waging war on terrorists, and he took >>>>down two of the most dangerous governments in the mid east in less >>>>than four years. >>>>Here’s another trick of the liberal media, they’ve got half of the >>>>country believing that it matters that nobody found any weapons of >>>>mass destruction in Iraq.  When we know that Hussein has used them, >>>>and they know he could make them whenever he wanted.  And anyone who’s >>>>paying attention knows what a dangerous man he was, and that he’s >>>>filled more mass graves than imaginable with people who didn’t agree >>>>with him. >>>>Liberal media refuses to admit that the man was dangerous, and needed >>>>to be removed from power. >>>>George Bush did that, and you and everyone else should be thanking him >>>>for ignoring the UN who was bought and paid for by Hussein. >>>>>Here’s another idea: have the US President defend his >>>>>positions in front of Congress every week, same way the >>>>>Prime Minister in England does during Question Time, instead >>>>>of living in a cocoon of brown-nosing cheerleading >>>>>sycophants who don’t dare question his policies. >>>>You must think that that’s a part of the president’s job for some >>>>reason. >>>Right about now Morvo from Futurama would be more credible than Rather. >>>Claude >>Morvo was one of the best characters on that show.  Another good >>character is Lrrr, ruler of the planet Omicron Persei VIII >>Last night, they showed the Family Guy episode where the anchorman >>lied and told everyone that one of the scrolls had been found for >>winning a look inside this brewery that nobody had ever been the >>inside of before, so he apologizes and sticks an earwig into his ear: >>Tom Tucker: "What I did was wrong…… and as an act of contrition, I >>will now insert this carnivorous earwig into my brain." >>Now I’m not saying that Dan Rather should stick a carnivorous earwig >>into his ear, but I’m not saying he shouldn’t either. >Live on the 6 PM CBS Evening News would be good. >Extensive pre-insertion publicity is a must, so those of us >like myself who haven’t bothered to watch the cretin for >many years now can make it a point to tune in. >An appropriate act of contrition for old Dan, as well. >Then Morvo takes over. Ratings soar. >Claude >Morbo: Pitiful human anchorman!!! I will destroy you!

Heh. On further review, though, it would be tough to see any noticable difference between pre and post-insertion Dan… Claude

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>>>> I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the >>>>>>> website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame. >>>>>>CBS should have kept Walter Cronkite and traded Dan Rather >>>>>>to ABC for Peter Jennings and 2 cable-channel players to >>>>>>be named later, 25 years ago. Why CBS can’t get it in their >>>>>>heads (merely by reading Nielsen reports) that Dan Rather sucks, >>>>>>did suck, and always will suck, I have no idea. The only reason >>>>>>I can imagine that Dan Rather still has a job at CBS is that >>>>>>he’s sucking or kissing something very disgusting. >>>>>Peter Jennings is just another network’s Dan Rather >>>>>>> I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and >>>>>>> radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making >>>>>>> blatant attempts to influence politics. >>>>>>Golly, Pete, have you ever tried reading the press in other English >>>>>>language countries, like Australia, England & Ireland? They usually >>>>>>have a no quarter given cynical attitude about politicians in general, >>>>>>an attitude that I think the US press (which is practically >>>>>>an administration handmaiden in comparison to even the Canadian >>>>>>press) would do well to emulate. Giving politicos a free >>>>>>pass from criticism is an invitation to abuse. >>>>>Here’s the way all liberal media works. >>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>        <repeat> >>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>        <repeat> >>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>        <repeat> >>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>        <repeat> >>>>>And none of them are willing to admit that what Bush did was amazingly >>>>>successful when he said he was waging war on terrorists, and he took >>>>>down two of the most dangerous governments in the mid east in less >>>>>than four years. >>>>>Here’s another trick of the liberal media, they’ve got half of the >>>>>country believing that it matters that nobody found any weapons of >>>>>mass destruction in Iraq.  When we know that Hussein has used them, >>>>>and they know he could make them whenever he wanted.  And anyone who’s >>>>>paying attention knows what a dangerous man he was, and that he’s >>>>>filled more mass graves than imaginable with people who didn’t agree >>>>>with him. >>>>>Liberal media refuses to admit that the man was dangerous, and needed >>>>>to be removed from power. >>>>>George Bush did that, and you and everyone else should be thanking him >>>>>for ignoring the UN who was bought and paid for by Hussein. >>>>>>Here’s another idea: have the US President defend his >>>>>>positions in front of Congress every week, same way the >>>>>>Prime Minister in England does during Question Time, instead >>>>>>of living in a cocoon of brown-nosing cheerleading >>>>>>sycophants who don’t dare question his policies. >>>>>You must think that that’s a part of the president’s job for some >>>>>reason. >>>>Right about now Morvo from Futurama would be more credible than Rather. >>>>Claude >>>Morvo was one of the best characters on that show.  Another good >>>character is Lrrr, ruler of the planet Omicron Persei VIII >>>Last night, they showed the Family Guy episode where the anchorman >>>lied and told everyone that one of the scrolls had been found for >>>winning a look inside this brewery that nobody had ever been the >>>inside of before, so he apologizes and sticks an earwig into his ear: >>>Tom Tucker: "What I did was wrong…… and as an act of contrition, I >>>will now insert this carnivorous earwig into my brain." >>>Now I’m not saying that Dan Rather should stick a carnivorous earwig >>>into his ear, but I’m not saying he shouldn’t either. >>Live on the 6 PM CBS Evening News would be good. >>Extensive pre-insertion publicity is a must, so those of us >>like myself who haven’t bothered to watch the cretin for >>many years now can make it a point to tune in. >>An appropriate act of contrition for old Dan, as well. >>Then Morvo takes over. Ratings soar. >>Claude >Morbo: Pitiful human anchorman!!! I will destroy you! >Heh. >On further review, though, it would be tough to see any >noticable difference between pre and post-insertion Dan… >Claude

It’s teach them a lesson about checking facts. If CBS was smart, and they’re not {Superbowl(MTV)Janet’s tit} they’d replace Dan Rather, and put him in a less prestigious position. Pete —                                             –Plank

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>>>>> I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the >>>>>>>> website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame. >>>>>>>CBS should have kept Walter Cronkite and traded Dan Rather >>>>>>>to ABC for Peter Jennings and 2 cable-channel players to >>>>>>>be named later, 25 years ago. Why CBS can’t get it in their >>>>>>>heads (merely by reading Nielsen reports) that Dan Rather sucks, >>>>>>>did suck, and always will suck, I have no idea. The only reason >>>>>>>I can imagine that Dan Rather still has a job at CBS is that >>>>>>>he’s sucking or kissing something very disgusting. >>>>>>Peter Jennings is just another network’s Dan Rather >>>>>>>> I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and >>>>>>>> radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making >>>>>>>> blatant attempts to influence politics. >>>>>>>Golly, Pete, have you ever tried reading the press in other English >>>>>>>language countries, like Australia, England & Ireland? They usually >>>>>>>have a no quarter given cynical attitude about politicians in general, >>>>>>>an attitude that I think the US press (which is practically >>>>>>>an administration handmaiden in comparison to even the Canadian >>>>>>>press) would do well to emulate. Giving politicos a free >>>>>>>pass from criticism is an invitation to abuse. >>>>>>Here’s the way all liberal media works. >>>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>>    <repeat> >>>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>>    <repeat> >>>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>>    <repeat> >>>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>>    <repeat> >>>>>>And none of them are willing to admit that what Bush did was amazingly >>>>>>successful when he said he was waging war on terrorists, and he took >>>>>>down two of the most dangerous governments in the mid east in less >>>>>>than four years. >>>>>>Here’s another trick of the liberal media, they’ve got half of the >>>>>>country believing that it matters that nobody found any weapons of >>>>>>mass destruction in Iraq.  When we know that Hussein has used them, >>>>>>and they know he could make them whenever he wanted.  And anyone who’s >>>>>>paying attention knows what a dangerous man he was, and that he’s >>>>>>filled more mass graves than imaginable with people who didn’t agree >>>>>>with him. >>>>>>Liberal media refuses to admit that the man was dangerous, and needed >>>>>>to be removed from power. >>>>>>George Bush did that, and you and everyone else should be thanking him >>>>>>for ignoring the UN who was bought and paid for by Hussein. >>>>>>>Here’s another idea: have the US President defend his >>>>>>>positions in front of Congress every week, same way the >>>>>>>Prime Minister in England does during Question Time, instead >>>>>>>of living in a cocoon of brown-nosing cheerleading >>>>>>>sycophants who don’t dare question his policies. >>>>>>You must think that that’s a part of the president’s job for some >>>>>>reason. >>>>>Right about now Morvo from Futurama would be more credible than Rather. >>>>>Claude >>>>Morvo was one of the best characters on that show.  Another good >>>>character is Lrrr, ruler of the planet Omicron Persei VIII >>>>Last night, they showed the Family Guy episode where the anchorman >>>>lied and told everyone that one of the scrolls had been found for >>>>winning a look inside this brewery that nobody had ever been the >>>>inside of before, so he apologizes and sticks an earwig into his ear: >>>>Tom Tucker: "What I did was wrong…… and as an act of contrition, I >>>>will now insert this carnivorous earwig into my brain." >>>>Now I’m not saying that Dan Rather should stick a carnivorous earwig >>>>into his ear, but I’m not saying he shouldn’t either. >>>Live on the 6 PM CBS Evening News would be good. >>>Extensive pre-insertion publicity is a must, so those of us >>>like myself who haven’t bothered to watch the cretin for >>>many years now can make it a point to tune in. >>>An appropriate act of contrition for old Dan, as well. >>>Then Morvo takes over. Ratings soar. >>>Claude >>Morbo: Pitiful human anchorman!!! I will destroy you! >Heh. >On further review, though, it would be tough to see any >noticable difference between pre and post-insertion Dan… >Claude >It’s teach them a lesson about checking facts. >If CBS was smart, and they’re not {Superbowl(MTV)Janet’s tit} they’d >replace Dan Rather, and put him in a less prestigious position.

If frogs had wings they wouldn’t drag their asses… Claude

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>>>>>> I don’t think CBS will do anything, but I agree with the guy running the >>>>>>>>> website that Dan Rather should shoulder the blame. >>>>>>>>CBS should have kept Walter Cronkite and traded Dan Rather >>>>>>>>to ABC for Peter Jennings and 2 cable-channel players to >>>>>>>>be named later, 25 years ago. Why CBS can’t get it in their >>>>>>>>heads (merely by reading Nielsen reports) that Dan Rather sucks, >>>>>>>>did suck, and always will suck, I have no idea. The only reason >>>>>>>>I can imagine that Dan Rather still has a job at CBS is that >>>>>>>>he’s sucking or kissing something very disgusting. >>>>>>>Peter Jennings is just another network’s Dan Rather >>>>>>>>> I’m getting tired of all the liberal media, including newsprint and TV and >>>>>>>>> radio news, all pretending to be presenting the news, when they’re making >>>>>>>>> blatant attempts to influence politics. >>>>>>>>Golly, Pete, have you ever tried reading the press in other English >>>>>>>>language countries, like Australia, England & Ireland? They usually >>>>>>>>have a no quarter given cynical attitude about politicians in general, >>>>>>>>an attitude that I think the US press (which is practically >>>>>>>>an administration handmaiden in comparison to even the Canadian >>>>>>>>press) would do well to emulate. Giving politicos a free >>>>>>>>pass from criticism is an invitation to abuse. >>>>>>>Here’s the way all liberal media works. >>>>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>>>        <repeat> >>>>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>>>        <repeat> >>>>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>>>        <repeat> >>>>>>>War/Bush/Bad, Kerry/Poodle/Good >>>>>>>        <repeat> >>>>>>>And none of them are willing to admit that what Bush did was amazingly >>>>>>>successful when he said he was waging war on terrorists, and he took >>>>>>>down two of the most dangerous governments in the mid east in less >>>>>>>than four years. >>>>>>>Here’s another trick of the liberal media, they’ve got half of the >>>>>>>country believing that it matters that nobody found any weapons of >>>>>>>mass destruction in Iraq.  When we know that Hussein has used them, >>>>>>>and they know he could make them whenever he wanted.  And anyone who’s >>>>>>>paying attention knows what a dangerous man he was, and that he’s >>>>>>>filled more mass graves than imaginable with people who didn’t agree >>>>>>>with him. >>>>>>>Liberal media refuses to admit that the man was dangerous, and needed >>>>>>>to be removed from power. >>>>>>>George Bush did that, and you and everyone else should be thanking him >>>>>>>for ignoring the UN who was bought and paid for by Hussein. >>>>>>>>Here’s another idea: have the US President defend his >>>>>>>>positions in front of Congress every week, same way the >>>>>>>>Prime Minister in England does during Question Time, instead >>>>>>>>of living in a cocoon of brown-nosing cheerleading >>>>>>>>sycophants who don’t dare question his policies. >>>>>>>You must think that that’s a part of the president’s job for some >>>>>>>reason. >>>>>>Right about now Morvo from Futurama would be more credible than Rather. >>>>>>Claude >>>>>Morvo was one of the best characters on that show.  Another good >>>>>character is Lrrr, ruler of the planet Omicron Persei VIII >>>>>Last night, they showed the Family Guy episode where the anchorman >>>>>lied and told everyone that one of the scrolls had been found for >>>>>winning a look inside this brewery that nobody had ever been the >>>>>inside of before, so he apologizes and sticks an earwig into his ear: >>>>>Tom Tucker: "What I did was wrong…… and as an act of contrition, I >>>>>will now insert this carnivorous earwig into my brain." >>>>>Now I’m not saying that Dan Rather should stick a carnivorous earwig >>>>>into his ear, but I’m not saying he shouldn’t either. >>>>Live on the 6 PM CBS Evening News would be good. >>>>Extensive pre-insertion publicity is a must, so those of us >>>>like myself who haven’t bothered to watch the cretin for >>>>many years now can make it a point to tune in. >>>>An appropriate act of contrition for old Dan, as well. >>>>Then Morvo takes over. Ratings soar. >>>>Claude >>>Morbo: Pitiful human anchorman!!! I will destroy you! >>Heh. >>On further review, though, it would be tough to see any >>noticable difference between pre and post-insertion Dan… >>Claude >It’s teach them a lesson about checking facts. >If CBS was smart, and they’re not {Superbowl(MTV)Janet’s tit} they’d >replace Dan Rather, and put him in a less prestigious position. >If frogs had wings they wouldn’t drag their asses… >Claude

That’s true!  And if pigs could fly, they wouldn’t cool off by rolling in the mud either. Pete —                                             –Plank

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> I admired Dan Rather for going after and asking the tough > questions to Tricky Dicky just like Sam Donaldson used > to hound Ronnie Raygunn. But nowdays, there is no bulldog > representing the

> American people’s right to know.

Damn straight, and the talking heads with their agendas, would make a good shooting gallery arcade for summer entertainment at the shore. > And now there’s a campaign to stifle it and the morons of the > population are all for it? What a pathetic bunch of chumps.

Damn straight!!!! He should eat some of the shit the flies back at him. I’d rather this man was here today on CBS. http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/M/htmlM/murrowedwar/murrowedwar.htm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Rather made a mistake – fire him. > Bush lied and thousands died. Oh, he gets to stay. > This is going on in a parallel universe, right? > No, it’s here! > Really? But who would have thought there could be so many fucking stupid > people? > Mass hypnosis? > http://danrathermustgo.com/ > Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Time Electronics. > http://www.timeelect.com > Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, >        Music & Studio Production, > Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

– Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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> > I admired Dan Rather for going after and asking the tough > questions to Tricky Dicky just like Sam Donaldson used > to hound Ronnie Raygunn. But nowdays, there is no bulldog > representing the American people’s right to know.

 > > Rather made a mistake – fire him. > Bush lied and thousands died. Oh, he gets to stay. > This is going on in a parallel universe, right? > No, it’s here! > Really? But who would have thought there could be so many fucking stupid > people? > Mass hypnosis?

Nah, just mass media bias: Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia – good… Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq – bad… Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia – good.. Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq – bad… Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia – good… Bush imposes regime change in Iraq – bad… Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists- good… Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator – bad… Clinton bombs Chinese embassy – good… Bush bombs terrorist camps – bad. Clinton commits felonies while in office – good… Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit – bad… No mass graves found in Serbia – good… No WMD found Iraq – bad… Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton – good… Economy on upswing under Bush – bad… Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden – good… World Trade Centers fall under Bush – bad… Clinton says Saddam has nukes – good… Bush says Saddam has nukes – bad… Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq – good… Bush imposes regime change in Iraq – bad… Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton – good… Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan – bad… Milosevic not yet convicted – good… Saddam turned over for trial – bad.

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yeah, i think it’s a "sliding scale"…lol  at least dogs get a break as they get older…lol jeff

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->7 years to our 1?  That would make Peppi 98 in doggie years.  Twice your age >is 106 old man. > I think that seven year thing only applies to the first year. AFter that it > just does not make any sense to me. > Jennie

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>we have a toy poodle, Peppi, who by the way has intestinal problems.  We >have to really watch his diet.  He’s a nice little lap dog.  What kind of >poodle do you have?

My little poodle is a miniature, although that name is confusing, she is the medium size. Boy she watches my every move… I rescued her from an abusive home in Sacramento. Jennie

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>7 years to our 1?  That would make Peppi 98 in doggie years.  Twice your age >is 106 old man.

I think that seven year thing only applies to the first year. AFter that it just does not make any sense to me. Jennie

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thanks Annie, That is an interesting idea, I have never looked into Tivo. I have satellite TV and really tv has just stunk lately, man o man. I end up watching things like gunsmoke and wishing that I was married to Matt Dillon, haha.>.i have tivo and can record – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->some good stuff..old movies are a passion of mine…and sometimes some >"junk" stuff to watch when the pain is getting bad…it might be >something worthwhile for u to look into for those long days

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hmm, pretty close guess, eh? jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ll say…… > 7 years to our 1?  That would make Peppi 98 in doggie years.  Twice your age > is 106 old man. > Mary > in doggie years, he is about twice my age……which is really, REALLY > OLD! > lol > jeff > > we have a toy poodle, Peppi, who by the way has intestinal problems. We > > have to really watch his diet.  He’s a nice little lap dog.  What kind > of > > poodle do you have? > > Mary > > > Seems like email is a bit too quiet today. Does anyone out there want > to > > chat > > > on yahoo messenger ??? I am 54, currently at home on baby food and > easy > to > > > digest stuff. Things are really dull here because I live alone. I took > one > > > drive today and stopped at at ten house garage sale mania, but not > much > of > > > interest for sale. > > > I have two dogs, wire haired fox terrier and a poodle. Would love to > chat > > about > > > anything. This is my email if you would would like to email or chat on > > Yahoo. > > > Jennie CD since 1984

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Jeff, Somehow the measurement for dogs ages are 7 years to our l.  Can’t think too clearly at the moment, to measure their years against ours, that would give them an impossible lifetime.   I always thought it should be figured 5 years to our l.   That makes much more sense. Maybe after morning has a better hour, I can put it in examples.  Very foggy now. Gail

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Good Morning Gail!  Glad to see you.  Have a great day.  G_d bless you. Warmly,   Margie CD Class of 67 UC Class of 96

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I’ll say…… 7 years to our 1?  That would make Peppi 98 in doggie years.  Twice your age is 106 old man. Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> in doggie years, he is about twice my age……which is really, REALLY OLD! > lol > jeff > we have a toy poodle, Peppi, who by the way has intestinal problems.  We > have to really watch his diet.  He’s a nice little lap dog.  What kind of > poodle do you have? > Mary > > Seems like email is a bit too quiet today. Does anyone out there want to > chat > > on yahoo messenger ??? I am 54, currently at home on baby food and easy > to > > digest stuff. Things are really dull here because I live alone. I took > one > > drive today and stopped at at ten house garage sale mania, but not much > of > > interest for sale. > > I have two dogs, wire haired fox terrier and a poodle. Would love to > chat > about > > anything. This is my email if you would would like to email or chat on > Yahoo. > > Jennie CD since 1984

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we have a toy poodle, Peppi, who by the way has intestinal problems.  We have to really watch his diet.  He’s a nice little lap dog.  What kind of poodle do you have? Mary

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Seems like email is a bit too quiet today. Does anyone out there want to chat > on yahoo messenger ??? I am 54, currently at home on baby food and easy to > digest stuff. Things are really dull here because I live alone. I took one > drive today and stopped at at ten house garage sale mania, but not much of > interest for sale. > I have two dogs, wire haired fox terrier and a poodle. Would love to chat about > anything. This is my email if you would would like to email or chat on Yahoo. > Jennie CD since 1984

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"I would be happier if your computer broke and you forgot how to use another" Margie(DSRTKWEEN). I own three computers, each of which l built myself… Navid.

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in doggie years, he is about twice my age……which is really, REALLY OLD! lol jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> we have a toy poodle, Peppi, who by the way has intestinal problems.  We > have to really watch his diet.  He’s a nice little lap dog.  What kind of > poodle do you have? > Mary > Seems like email is a bit too quiet today. Does anyone out there want to > chat > on yahoo messenger ??? I am 54, currently at home on baby food and easy to > digest stuff. Things are really dull here because I live alone. I took one > drive today and stopped at at ten house garage sale mania, but not much of > interest for sale. > I have two dogs, wire haired fox terrier and a poodle. Would love to chat > about > anything. This is my email if you would would like to email or chat on > Yahoo. > Jennie CD since 1984

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who asked YOU?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "You can chat with me if you like." Jeff Berk. > Don’t be so ridiculous Jeff,  I would rather have my tongue beaten wafer > thin by a meat tenderiser, and then have it pinned to the floor by croquet > hoops! > Navid

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>> Don’t be so ridiculous Jeff,  I would rather have my tongue beaten wafer > thin by a meat tenderiser, and then have it pinned to the floor by croquet > hoops!

That’s not a bad idea either but I would be happier if your computer broke and you forgot how to use another this way we would not have to hear from you again.  I wish YOU no personal injury…just your computer and your ability to learn another.   Margie CD Class of 67 UC Class of 96

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just ignore him, Jeff.   He must have forgot his medication. Mary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> who asked YOU? > "You can chat with me if you like." Jeff Berk. > Don’t be so ridiculous Jeff,  I would rather have my tongue beaten wafer > thin by a meat tenderiser, and then have it pinned to the floor by croquet > hoops! > Navid

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> Seems like email is a bit too quiet today. Does anyone out there want to chat > on yahoo messenger ??? I am 54, currently at home on baby food and easy to > digest stuff. Things are really dull here because I live alone. I took one > drive today and stopped at at ten house garage sale mania, but not much of > interest for sale. > I have two dogs, wire haired fox terrier and a poodle. Would love to chat about > anything. This is my email if you would would like to email or chat on Yahoo. > Jennie CD since 1984

hi jennie i am not set up for chat..and frankly with moving back after 2 years i have very little time…but i could email sometime…i will certainly answer if u email me..i am 57 and was dx in 1978 with uc and 81 with crohns and now..crohns colitis..so like u its been a long haul…i am lucky to be married(second time around) to a wonderful person who is very supportive… one thing i do when he is working a lot..i have tivo and can record some good stuff..old movies are a passion of mine…and sometimes some "junk" stuff to watch when the pain is getting bad…it might be something worthwhile for u to look into for those long days when u dont feel up to going out and things are too quiet…my tivo is being moved from seattle so i am tivoless right now <g> but like i said..things are SO busy here..i barely have time to sit here and do this..this is a lull in the storm take care and if u want to email i will write back(assuming our net is up which is problematic just now..we just got cable modem and its kinda messy to deal with) annie

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the same name, mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > But what name do you use on AIM? >I use AIM, not yahoo and am always happy to chat, just look for me, I’m often >around.  I hope you are feeling better.  I love dogs and am thinking of >getting one myself.

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"You can chat with me if you like." Jeff Berk. Don’t be so ridiculous Jeff,  I would rather have my tongue beaten wafer thin by a meat tenderiser, and then have it pinned to the floor by croquet hoops! Navid

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But what name do you use on AIM? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I use AIM, not yahoo and am always happy to chat, just look for me, I’m often >around.  I hope you are feeling better.  I love dogs and am thinking of >getting one myself.

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Seems like email is a bit too quiet today. Does anyone out there want to chat on yahoo messenger ??? I am 54, currently at home on baby food and easy to digest stuff. Things are really dull here because I live alone. I took one drive today and stopped at at ten house garage sale mania, but not much of interest for sale. I have two dogs, wire haired fox terrier and a poodle. Would love to chat about anything. This is my email if you would would like to email or chat on Yahoo. Jennie CD since 1984

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Jeannie, I use AIM, not yahoo and am always happy to chat, just look for me, I’m often around.  I hope you are feeling better.  I love dogs and am thinking of getting one myself.  mgbio – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Seems like email is a bit too quiet today. Does anyone out there want to chat > on yahoo messenger ??? I am 54, currently at home on baby food and easy to > digest stuff. Things are really dull here because I live alone. I took one > drive today and stopped at at ten house garage sale mania, but not much of > interest for sale. > I have two dogs, wire haired fox terrier and a poodle. Would love to chat about > anything. This is my email if you would would like to email or chat on Yahoo. > Jennie CD since 1984

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you can chat with me if you like.  i am on in the evenings.  the5berks is my yahoo im.  just send me a message. jeff

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Seems like email is a bit too quiet today. Does anyone out there want to chat > on yahoo messenger ??? I am 54, currently at home on baby food and easy to > digest stuff. Things are really dull here because I live alone. I took one > drive today and stopped at at ten house garage sale mania, but not much of > interest for sale. > I have two dogs, wire haired fox terrier and a poodle. Would love to chat about > anything. This is my email if you would would like to email or chat on Yahoo. > Jennie CD since 1984

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Here’s Zell Miller praising John Kerry in 2001.  From Zell Miller’s own website: http://miller.senate.gov/speeches/030101jjdinner.htm Introduction of Senator John Kerry Democratic Party of Georgia’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner March 1, 2001      I continue to be impressed with all that Governor Barnes and Lieutenant Governor Taylor and the Speaker and the General Assembly are getting done over at the Gold Dome. Georgia is fortunate to have this kind of leadership.      My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and greatest leaders — and a good friend.      He was once a lieutenant governor — but he didn’t stay in that office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984.      In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington.      Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so.      John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made him a member of its "Digital Dozen."      John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 — when he defeated popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched Senate race in the country.      John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam Veterans of America.        Posted via TITANnews – Uncensored Newsgroups Access              >>>> at http://www.TitanNews.com <<<< -=Every Newsgroup – Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=-

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Here’s Zell Miller praising John Kerry in 2001. >  From Zell Miller’s own website: > http://miller.senate.gov/speeches/030101jjdinner.htm > Introduction of Senator John Kerry > Democratic Party of Georgia’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner > March 1, 2001 >      I continue to be impressed with all that Governor Barnes and > Lieutenant Governor Taylor and the Speaker and the General Assembly are > getting done over at the Gold Dome. Georgia is fortunate to have this > kind of leadership. >      My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this > nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and greatest > leaders — and a good friend. >      He was once a lieutenant governor — but he didn’t stay in that > office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before > the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984. >      In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against > government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington. >      Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the > Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced > budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so. >      John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public > education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week > magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made > him a member of its "Digital Dozen." >      John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 — when he defeated > popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched > Senate race in the country. >      John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in > the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the > Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam > Veterans of America.

So, what’s the point Bruce. Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering,        Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here’s Zell Miller praising John Kerry in 2001. >  From Zell Miller’s own website: > http://miller.senate.gov/speeches/030101jjdinner.htm > Introduction of Senator John Kerry > Democratic Party of Georgia’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner > March 1, 2001 >      I continue to be impressed with all that Governor Barnes and > Lieutenant Governor Taylor and the Speaker and the General Assembly are > getting done over at the Gold Dome. Georgia is fortunate to have this > kind of leadership. >      My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this > nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and greatest > leaders — and a good friend. >      He was once a lieutenant governor — but he didn’t stay in that > office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before > the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984. >      In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against > government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington. >      Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the > Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced > budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so. >      John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public > education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week > magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made > him a member of its "Digital Dozen." >      John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 — when he defeated > popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched > Senate race in the country. >      John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in > the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the > Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam > Veterans of America. >So, what’s the point Bruce.

Bruce has the same basic point for all his postings 0cents.com has a handy pictorial interpretation that saves the interested reader from having to wade through the impenetrable text formatting, turgid prose, and regurgitated agit-prop. http://tinyurl.com/4mmjl Bruce could save all of us a bit of trouble by simply posting this url when ever he feels moved to comment on current events. All his postings seem to distill down to the feelings expressed by this simple stamp. Glad I could help Claude

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here’s Zell Miller praising John Kerry in 2001. >  From Zell Miller’s own website: > http://miller.senate.gov/speeches/030101jjdinner.htm > Introduction of Senator John Kerry > Democratic Party of Georgia’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner > March 1, 2001 >      I continue to be impressed with all that Governor Barnes and > Lieutenant Governor Taylor and the Speaker and the General Assembly are > getting done over at the Gold Dome. Georgia is fortunate to have this > kind of leadership. >      My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this > nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and greatest > leaders — and a good friend. >      He was once a lieutenant governor — but he didn’t stay in that > office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before > the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984. >      In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against > government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington. >      Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the > Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced > budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so. >      John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public > education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week > magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made > him a member of its "Digital Dozen." >      John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 — when he defeated > popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched > Senate race in the country. >      John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in > the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the > Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam > Veterans of America. >So, what’s the point Bruce.

The fact that you don’t see the point is the reason you’re thinking of voting for Bush, Rich.        Posted via TITANnews – Uncensored Newsgroups Access              >>>> at http://www.TitanNews.com <<<< -=Every Newsgroup – Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=-

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Here’s Zell Miller praising John Kerry in 2001. >>  From Zell Miller’s own website: >> http://miller.senate.gov/speeches/030101jjdinner.htm >> Introduction of Senator John Kerry >> Democratic Party of Georgia’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner >> March 1, 2001 >>      I continue to be impressed with all that Governor Barnes and >> Lieutenant Governor Taylor and the Speaker and the General Assembly are >> getting done over at the Gold Dome. Georgia is fortunate to have this >> kind of leadership. >>      My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this >> nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and greatest >> leaders — and a good friend. >>      He was once a lieutenant governor — but he didn’t stay in that >> office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before >> the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in >1984. >>      In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against >> government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to >Washington. >>      Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the >> Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced >> budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do >so. >>      John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public >> education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week >> magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made >> him a member of its "Digital Dozen." >>      John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 — when he defeated >> popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched >> Senate race in the country. >>      John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in >> the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the >> Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam >> Veterans of America. >So, what’s the point Bruce. >Bruce has the same basic point for all his postings >0cents.com has a handy pictorial interpretation that saves >the interested reader from having to wade through the impenetrable >text formatting, turgid prose, and regurgitated agit-prop. >http://tinyurl.com/4mmjl >Bruce could save all of us a bit of trouble by simply >posting this url when ever he feels moved to comment >on current events. All his postings seem to distill >down to the feelings expressed by this simple stamp. >Glad I could help >Claude

http://tinyurl.com/4mmjl http://golfdevil.co.uk/babycry.wav Lostpup198 "People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news." — A. J. Liebling [Abbott Joseph Liebling] (1904-1963) Journalist, author Source: The New Yorker, 7 April 1956

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>> Here’s Zell Miller praising John Kerry in 2001. >>>  From Zell Miller’s own website: >>> http://miller.senate.gov/speeches/030101jjdinner.htm >>> Introduction of Senator John Kerry >>> Democratic Party of Georgia’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner >>> March 1, 2001 >>>      I continue to be impressed with all that Governor Barnes and >>> Lieutenant Governor Taylor and the Speaker and the General Assembly are >>> getting done over at the Gold Dome. Georgia is fortunate to have this >>> kind of leadership. >>>      My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this >>> nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and greatest >>> leaders — and a good friend. >>>      He was once a lieutenant governor — but he didn’t stay in that >>> office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before >>> the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in >1984. >>>      In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against >>> government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to >Washington. >>>      Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the >>> Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced >>> budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do >so. >>>      John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public >>> education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week >>> magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made >>> him a member of its "Digital Dozen." >>>      John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 — when he defeated >>> popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched >>> Senate race in the country. >>>      John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in >>> the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the >>> Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam >>> Veterans of America. >>So, what’s the point Bruce. >Bruce has the same basic point for all his postings >0cents.com has a handy pictorial interpretation that saves >the interested reader from having to wade through the impenetrable >text formatting, turgid prose, and regurgitated agit-prop. >http://tinyurl.com/4mmjl >Bruce could save all of us a bit of trouble by simply >posting this url when ever he feels moved to comment >on current events. All his postings seem to distill >down to the feelings expressed by this simple stamp. >Glad I could help >Claude >http://tinyurl.com/4mmjl >http://golfdevil.co.uk/babycry.wav

It’s too bad there’s not a way to load both urls simultaneously…. The sound effect definately fits the stamp. :^) Claude

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>>http://tinyurl.com/4mmjl >http://golfdevil.co.uk/babycry.wav >It’s too bad there’s not a way to load both urls simultaneously…. >The sound effect definately fits the stamp. >:^) >Claude

Yeah, he had 2 baby sound effects there, and I chose the one that fit the pic the best.  I could make a webpage that had both on it, but I’m not sure how expensive their lawyers are. Lostpup198 "People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news." — A. J. Liebling [Abbott Joseph Liebling] (1904-1963) Journalist, author Source: The New Yorker, 7 April 1956

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>http://tinyurl.com/4mmjl >>http://golfdevil.co.uk/babycry.wav >It’s too bad there’s not a way to load both urls simultaneously…. >The sound effect definately fits the stamp. >:^) >Claude >Yeah, he had 2 baby sound effects there, and I chose the one that fit the pic >the best.  I could make a webpage that had both on it, but I’m not sure how >expensive their lawyers are.

I’m not really that fluent in HTML. Is it possible to construct a url that will load the jpg from one site and the wav from another at the same time without actually copying the contents? That’d be pretty cool. Claude

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here’s Zell Miller praising John Kerry in 2001. >  From Zell Miller’s own website: > http://miller.senate.gov/speeches/030101jjdinner.htm > Introduction of Senator John Kerry > Democratic Party of Georgia’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner > March 1, 2001 >      I continue to be impressed with all that Governor Barnes and > Lieutenant Governor Taylor and the Speaker and the General Assembly are > getting done over at the Gold Dome. Georgia is fortunate to have this > kind of leadership. >      My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this > nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and greatest > leaders — and a good friend. >      He was once a lieutenant governor — but he didn’t stay in that > office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before > the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984. >      In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against > government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington. >      Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the > Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced > budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so. >      John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public > education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week > magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made > him a member of its "Digital Dozen." >      John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 — when he defeated > popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched > Senate race in the country. >      John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in > the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the > Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam > Veterans of America. > So, what’s the point Bruce.

The clock rang for a fart The fart jumped out of the bottle The bottle applied some math The math found a girlfriend And the fart filled up the vacuum in your head. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Time Electronics. > http://www.timeelect.com > Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, >        Music & Studio Production, > Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>http://tinyurl.com/4mmjl >>>http://golfdevil.co.uk/babycry.wav >>It’s too bad there’s not a way to load both urls simultaneously…. >>The sound effect definately fits the stamp. >>:^) >>Claude >Yeah, he had 2 baby sound effects there, and I chose the one that fit the >pic >the best.  I could make a webpage that had both on it, but I’m not sure how >expensive their lawyers are. >I’m not really that fluent in HTML. >Is it possible to construct a url that will load the jpg from >one site and the wav from another at the same time without actually >copying the contents? >That’d be pretty cool. >Claude

I’m not fluent enough to answer that question.  But I can copy contents from websites without blocks on them, and I can put them on another webpage.  It’s been a while since I’ve done that, though.  Lost interest in it.  One of things where you go "Been there, done that … what’s next?"  My latest endeavor … yardwork, beleive it or not.  Trying to grow a lawn.  For the past few years, I’ve lived with a concrete back yard … with the exception of where 2 trees were planted.  The only yardwork I did there is rake up dogshit and leaves, and spray the small stuff down the drains.  Recently moved out of the city and into the suburbs, and now I have a yard!  Wonder what I’m gonna do when I accomplish that? Lostpup198 "People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news." — A. J. Liebling [Abbott Joseph Liebling] (1904-1963) Journalist, author Source: The New Yorker, 7 April 1956

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>http://tinyurl.com/4mmjl >>>>http://golfdevil.co.uk/babycry.wav >>>It’s too bad there’s not a way to load both urls simultaneously…. >>>The sound effect definately fits the stamp. >>>:^) >>>Claude >>Yeah, he had 2 baby sound effects there, and I chose the one that fit the >pic >>the best.  I could make a webpage that had both on it, but I’m not sure how >>expensive their lawyers are. >I’m not really that fluent in HTML. >Is it possible to construct a url that will load the jpg from >one site and the wav from another at the same time without actually >copying the contents? >That’d be pretty cool. >Claude >I’m not fluent enough to answer that question.  But I can copy contents from >websites without blocks on them, and I can put them on another webpage.  It’s >been a while since I’ve done that, though.  Lost interest in it.  One of things >where you go "Been there, done that … what’s next?"  My latest endeavor … >yardwork, beleive it or not.  Trying to grow a lawn.  For the past few years, >I’ve lived with a concrete back yard … with the exception of where 2 trees >were planted.  The only yardwork I did there is rake up dogshit and leaves, and >spray the small stuff down the drains.  Recently moved out of the city and into >the suburbs, and now I have a yard!  Wonder what I’m gonna do when I accomplish >that?

Oddly enough, I’ve been doing yardwork as well. Previous occupant left piles of crap including an old engine, decrepit buildings, dangerous looking piles of worthless looking building/roofing/painting materials and years old dogshit that I’m finally getting rid of. Down to the dirt. No lawn for me, tho. Yuccas, Beavertails, maybe some desert sage and flowers. If I’m feeling affluent a large saguaro or two. I have a pretty small yard, but I am near public land over twice the size of Rhode Island. I’ll let the BLM deal with that. Claude

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>Here’s Zell Miller praising John Kerry in 2001. > From Zell Miller’s own website: >http://miller.senate.gov/speeches/030101jjdinner.htm  –snip– >John has worked to strengthen our military, reform >public education, boost the economy and protect >the environment. Business Week magazine named >him one of the top pro-technology legislators and >made him a member of its "Digital Dozen."

 –snip– Sounds like he might have been bought off since 2001. The Repair Guy http://repairguy1993.netfirms.com/

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>http://tinyurl.com/4mmjl >>>http://golfdevil.co.uk/babycry.wav >>It’s too bad there’s not a way to load both urls simultaneously…. >>The sound effect definately fits the stamp. >>:^) >>Claude >Yeah, he had 2 baby sound effects there, and I chose the one that fit the pic >the best.  I could make a webpage that had both on it, but I’m not sure how >expensive their lawyers are. >I’m not really that fluent in HTML. >Is it possible to construct a url that will load the jpg from >one site and the wav from another at the same time without actually >copying the contents? >That’d be pretty cool. >Claude

It’s been a long while since I made a page that did that – it can be done. But… I’m sure the owners of that content would rather you copy it than link to them and steal bandwidth they’re paying for. I would just ask.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Here’s Zell Miller praising John Kerry in 2001. >>  From Zell Miller’s own website: >> http://miller.senate.gov/speeches/030101jjdinner.htm >> Introduction of Senator John Kerry >> Democratic Party of Georgia’s Jefferson-Jackson Dinner >> March 1, 2001 >>      I continue to be impressed with all that Governor Barnes and >> Lieutenant Governor Taylor and the Speaker and the General Assembly are >> getting done over at the Gold Dome. Georgia is fortunate to have this >> kind of leadership. >>      My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this >> nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and greatest >> leaders — and a good friend. >>      He was once a lieutenant governor — but he didn’t stay in that >> office 16 years, like someone else I know. It just took two years before >> the people of Massachusetts moved him into the United States Senate in 1984. >>      In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against >> government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington. >>      Early in his Senate career in 1986, John signed on to the >> Gramm-Rudman-Hollings Deficit Reduction Bill, and he fought for balanced >> budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so. >>      John has worked to strengthen our military, reform public >> education, boost the economy and protect the environment. Business Week >> magazine named him one of the top pro-technology legislators and made >> him a member of its "Digital Dozen." >>      John was re-elected in 1990 and again in 1996 — when he defeated >> popular Republican Governor William Weld in the most closely watched >> Senate race in the country. >>      John is a graduate of Yale University and was a gunboat officer in >> the Navy. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star and three awards of the >> Purple Heart for combat duty in Vietnam. He later co-founded the Vietnam >> Veterans of America. >So, what’s the point Bruce. > The fact that you don’t > see the point is the > reason you’re thinking of > voting for Bush, Rich.

Well,……                                               Introduction of Senator John Kerry                                                Democratic Party of Georgia’s                                                   Jefferson-Jackson Dinner                                                       March 1, 2001                                    It is good to be back in Georgia and to be with you. I have been                                    coming to these dinners since the 1950s, and have missed very                                    few.                                    I’m proud to be Georgia’s junior senator and I’m honored to serve                                    with Max Cleland, who is as loved and respected as anyone in                                    that body. One of our very highest priorities must be to make sure                                    this man is re-elected in 2002 so he can continue to serve this state                                    and nation.                                    I continue to be impressed with all that Governor Barnes and                                    Lieutenant Governor Taylor and the Speaker and the General                                    Assembly are getting done over at the Gold Dome. Georgia is                                    fortunate to have this kind of leadership. <Rich note> So, what else would you like someone to say, in the way of acknowledgments, before entering the body of an introduction speech.  Everything sounds proper so far.                                    My job tonight is an easy one: to present to you one of this                                    nation’s authentic heroes, one of this party’s best-known and                                    greatest leaders